Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> So a monkey with paint and paper is a painter?

Hmm, that'd actually be kinda cool ;)
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I saw elephants doing that.

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"Timothy R. Cook" <tim### [at] scifi-fantasycom> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> > So a monkey with paint and paper is a painter?
>
> Hmm, that'd actually be kinda cool ;)
> --
> Tim Cook
> http://empyrean.scifi-fantasy.com
>
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> > "We know what is good for you".
>
> That should read -
>
> "Based on 10 years of experience we know what is good for the majority of
> you".

but with the CG industry moving so quickly, 10 years of experience might
just as well make you irrelevant


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> > it came across as "please stop talking about this, its been discussed to
> > death before, its far to difficult, you should be happy with the
explanation
> > in the vfaq"
>
> Well, this kind of is the idea.  Yes.
>
> > sorry, but parallel \ distributed rendering is a feature that I for one
> > really need, and the lack of such a feature in current versions (or in
any
>
> You did apparently miss the various occasions the POV-Team has
acknowledged
> parallel rendering as a feature for 4.0 (if it is possible).
>
> > foreseeable future versions) is one of the main reasons I do not use pov
> > (commercial & hobby) as much as I would like.
>
> Please stop whining.

after you...

if you feel unable to add to in a constructive manner, please restrain
yourself from joining in, if the 'constant' discussion of this topic upsets
you, remember that you don't have to read the threads.

If you doubt that this feature is even possible (or even really needed) does
not mean that it cannot and should not be done. This is such a radical
feature that will require radical changes to the way povray works and is
used, and in that quest nothing that povray does to date should be allowed
to prevent it.

Even if that means POV stops with 3.5 and version 4 is a new beast by the
same name with no other new features aside from this one.

The possibilities for the way povray can be used, both for hobbyists and
professionals are frankly, staggering.

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"Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:
> 
> > > "We know what is good for you".
> >
> > That should read -
> >
> > "Based on 10 years of experience we know what is good for the majority of
> > you".
> 
> but with the CG industry moving so quickly, 10 years of experience might
> just as well make you irrelevant

I have always been irrelevant.

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In article <3c01a1e6@news.povray.org> , "Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com> 
wrote:

> if you feel unable to add to in a constructive manner, please restrain
> yourself from joining in, if the 'constant' discussion of this topic upsets
> you, remember that you don't have to read the threads.

In case you missed it, I only commented on the discussion and its point.  A
discussion in a two year old thread, after all...

    Thorsten

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"Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:
> 
> > > "We know what is good for you".
> >
> > That should read -
> >
> > "Based on 10 years of experience we know what is good for the majority of
> > you".
> 
> but with the CG industry moving so quickly, 10 years of experience might
> just as well make you irrelevant

"Ten years of experience" is not the same as "Ten-years-old experience".
The latter might make you irrelevant, not the first one.

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> I have always been irrelevant.

Just what we like to hear :P


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"Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com> wrote in message
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> > > "We know what is good for you".
> >
> > That should read -
> >
> > "Based on 10 years of experience we know what is good for the majority
of
> > you".
>
> but with the CG industry moving so quickly, 10 years of experience might
> just as well make you irrelevant

Heh - like the "EBusiness" model, making old business practices obselete?
Investors saying they don't need Warren Buffet, they've got Tech stocks?

I'd say listen to the pros.  You don't have to do what they say, but at
least -listen- to them!

...Chambers

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Sure write your patches although keep it separate from the povray source unless your
willing to continue working on your patch, cause that's half of what programming is.
If a patch is added to povray it has to be thoroughly tested before it is officially
added.

/Jens

On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 07:21:12 -0500
"Timothy R. Cook" <tim### [at] scifi-fantasycom> wrote:

> Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> > Unfortunately many people read one book about C and
> > think they are programmers.  They are as wrong as
> > they can be, and the code they write usually
> > demonstrates this very well :-(
> 
> You're missing the distinction between being a
> programmer and being a programmer who writes
> good code.  If someone writes a program, no matter
> how useless, or how badly coded, even just one
> that outputs "Hello world", they are by definition
> a programmer (i.e. "one who makes programs").
> 
> If I had the need for a feature that POV didn't
> have and the ability to throw together a patch
> that allowed me to do what I desired, why would
> I spend more effort than absolutely necessary
> to achieve the effect I want (i.e. make it
> usable by anybody other than myself, with clean
> code, documentation, the works) if all I need
> it for is one or two images?  If someone else
> finds the patch useful, fine, but if it doesn't
> work the way THEY want, who cares?
> -- 
> Tim Cook
> http://empyrean.scifi-fantasy.com
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