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Warp wrote:
> Timothy R. Cook <tim### [at] scifi-fantasy com> wrote:
> : You're missing the distinction between being a
> : programmer and being a programmer who writes
> : good code. If someone writes a program, no matter
> : how useless, or how badly coded, even just one
> : that outputs "Hello world", they are by definition
> : a programmer (i.e. "one who makes programs").
>
> Knowing a programming language is far different from knowing
programming.
> He is right. It's sad how many people *think* they know programming when
> in reality they have no clue.
Which doesn't mean they are not allowed to make their own changes to the
code and make them available in their websites. Probably they will never be
members of the POV Team :) but not having your programming skill can't be a
guilt.
--
Jonathan.
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Patcher-bashing (was: Parallel / Distributed Network Rendering Included in POV)
Date: 25 Nov 2001 13:27:59
Message: <3C01388E.1F4F6CD7@pacbell.net>
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> "We know what is good for you".
That should read -
"Based on 10 years of experience we know what is good for the majority of
you".
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Ken Tyler
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Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> So a monkey with paint and paper is a painter?
Hmm, that'd actually be kinda cool ;)
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Tim Cook
http://empyrean.scifi-fantasy.com
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PGP-(--) t* 5++>+++++ X+ R* tv+ b++(+++) DI
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I saw elephants doing that.
--
Jonathan.
"Timothy R. Cook" <tim### [at] scifi-fantasycom> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3C014522.5DE67C4D@scifi-fantasy.com...
> Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> > So a monkey with paint and paper is a painter?
>
> Hmm, that'd actually be kinda cool ;)
> --
> Tim Cook
> http://empyrean.scifi-fantasy.com
>
> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
> Version: 3.12
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> PGP-(--) t* 5++>+++++ X+ R* tv+ b++(+++) DI
> D++(---) G(++) e*>++ h+ !r--- !y--
> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Patcher-bashing (was: Parallel / Distributed Network Rendering Included in POV)
Date: 25 Nov 2001 19:38:27
Message: <3c018f03$2@news.povray.org>
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> > "We know what is good for you".
>
> That should read -
>
> "Based on 10 years of experience we know what is good for the majority of
> you".
but with the CG industry moving so quickly, 10 years of experience might
just as well make you irrelevant
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> > it came across as "please stop talking about this, its been discussed to
> > death before, its far to difficult, you should be happy with the
explanation
> > in the vfaq"
>
> Well, this kind of is the idea. Yes.
>
> > sorry, but parallel \ distributed rendering is a feature that I for one
> > really need, and the lack of such a feature in current versions (or in
any
>
> You did apparently miss the various occasions the POV-Team has
acknowledged
> parallel rendering as a feature for 4.0 (if it is possible).
>
> > foreseeable future versions) is one of the main reasons I do not use pov
> > (commercial & hobby) as much as I would like.
>
> Please stop whining.
after you...
if you feel unable to add to in a constructive manner, please restrain
yourself from joining in, if the 'constant' discussion of this topic upsets
you, remember that you don't have to read the threads.
If you doubt that this feature is even possible (or even really needed) does
not mean that it cannot and should not be done. This is such a radical
feature that will require radical changes to the way povray works and is
used, and in that quest nothing that povray does to date should be allowed
to prevent it.
Even if that means POV stops with 3.5 and version 4 is a new beast by the
same name with no other new features aside from this one.
The possibilities for the way povray can be used, both for hobbyists and
professionals are frankly, staggering.
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Rick
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Patcher-bashing (was: Parallel / Distributed Network Rendering Included in POV)
Date: 25 Nov 2001 21:21:56
Message: <3C01A7A3.A309CA58@pacbell.net>
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"Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:
>
> > > "We know what is good for you".
> >
> > That should read -
> >
> > "Based on 10 years of experience we know what is good for the majority of
> > you".
>
> but with the CG industry moving so quickly, 10 years of experience might
> just as well make you irrelevant
I have always been irrelevant.
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In article <3c01a1e6@news.povray.org> , "Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com>
wrote:
> if you feel unable to add to in a constructive manner, please restrain
> yourself from joining in, if the 'constant' discussion of this topic upsets
> you, remember that you don't have to read the threads.
In case you missed it, I only commented on the discussion and its point. A
discussion in a two year old thread, after all...
Thorsten
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Thorsten Froehlich, Duisburg, Germany
e-mail: tho### [at] trfde
Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org
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From: Adrien Beau
Subject: Re: Patcher-bashing (was: Parallel / Distributed Network Rendering Included in POV)
Date: 26 Nov 2001 05:24:26
Message: <3C021874.4BA4DCB7@free.fr>
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"Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:
>
> > > "We know what is good for you".
> >
> > That should read -
> >
> > "Based on 10 years of experience we know what is good for the majority of
> > you".
>
> but with the CG industry moving so quickly, 10 years of experience might
> just as well make you irrelevant
"Ten years of experience" is not the same as "Ten-years-old experience".
The latter might make you irrelevant, not the first one.
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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Patcher-bashing (was: Parallel / Distributed Network Rendering Included in POV)
Date: 26 Nov 2001 07:15:57
Message: <3c02327d$1@news.povray.org>
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> I have always been irrelevant.
Just what we like to hear :P
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