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From: Francois Dispot
Subject: Arabeske 0.9e7... Oops!
Date: 25 Jan 1999 17:42:41
Message: <36ACF373.F7A6AECE@club-internet.fr>
A minor bug... preventing 99% of the potential users to make it run, has
been corrected.
You will find all the sources in the developer's corner, under Gnu
Public Licence.

The main page is:
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/7709/ara_welcome.html

The multiple window system seems to work with very few OS/JVM
configuration, but the single window works on every one I tested (with
some strange display behaviours except under Linux). So if you like it,
you should seriously consider to install Sun's Java plug-in!

A printable form of the manual (black on white HTML zipped up with all
the needed pictures) will soon be available for download.

Happy POVing!

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From: Johannes Hubert
Subject: Re: Arabeske 0.9e7... Oops!
Date: 26 Jan 1999 10:46:29
Message: <36ade355.0@news.povray.org>
Whoa! That is understatement if I ever heard one! To call a bug that
prevents 99% of all users to run the program a "minor" one! :-o

Johannes.

Francois Dispot wrote in message <36ACF373.F7A6AECE@club-internet.fr>...
>A minor bug... preventing 99% of the potential users to make it run, has
>been corrected.
>You will find all the sources in the developer's corner, under Gnu
>Public Licence.
[snip]


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From: Rudy Velthuis
Subject: Re: Arabeske 0.9e7... Oops!
Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:38:16
Message: <36af8748.0@news.povray.org>
Johannes Hubert schrieb in Nachricht <36ade355.0@news.povray.org>...
>Whoa! That is understatement if I ever heard one! To call a bug that
>prevents 99% of all users to run the program a "minor" one! :-o
>
>Johannes.


Whoa! you're right. But I think he means the bug was just something like a
typo or a wrong declaration and not something fundamentally wrong. Still,
even a typo or forgetting to free a memory object can be very dangerous too
(and sometimes much harder to find, btw).

--
Rudy Velthuis


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Arabeske 0.9e7... Oops!
Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:44:40
Message: <36AF87B7.636B9198@bahnhof.se>
Rudy Velthuis wrote:
> 
> Johannes Hubert schrieb in Nachricht <36ade355.0@news.povray.org>...
> >Whoa! That is understatement if I ever heard one! To call a bug that
> >prevents 99% of all users to run the program a "minor" one! :-o
> >
> >Johannes.
> 
> Whoa! you're right. But I think he means the bug was just something like a
> typo or a wrong declaration and not something fundamentally wrong. Still,
> even a typo or forgetting to free a memory object can be very dangerous too
> (and sometimes much harder to find, btw).


Since it is JAVA, memory is not that much of an issue...
But I agree wtih the typo/wrong def. thing...
What more is it, a simple erronious compile could be disasterous.... Ie. If it was
compiled for JDK1.2, instead of 1.1.x .... That would mean taht several users can't
access
it, but it will work on the computer it was created on...

//Spider


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Arabeske 0.9e7... Oops!
Date: 27 Jan 1999 16:52:07
Message: <36af8a87.0@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:40:07 +0100, Spider <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote:
>What more is it, a simple erronious compile could be disasterous.... Ie. If it was
>compiled for JDK1.2, instead of 1.1.x .... That would mean taht several users can't
access
>it, but it will work on the computer it was created on...

Somebody stop me...

Too late.  Write once, run anywhere?  Whazzat?


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Arabeske 0.9e7... Oops!
Date: 27 Jan 1999 17:01:56
Message: <36AF8BC5.AF67B4C5@bahnhof.se>
Ron Parker wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:40:07 +0100, Spider <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote:
> >What more is it, a simple erronious compile could be disasterous.... Ie. If it was
> >compiled for JDK1.2, instead of 1.1.x .... That would mean taht several users can't
access
> >it, but it will work on the computer it was created on...
> 
> Somebody stop me...
> 
> Too late.  Write once, run anywhere?  Whazzat?
Hm... I belive it is called.... Ehh... Human information viruses??

Yeah, that's it...
Human information viruses...

//Spider


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Arabeske 0.9e7... Oops!
Date: 27 Jan 1999 17:04:03
Message: <36AF8D41.3F8E8F17@pacbell.net>
Spider wrote:
> 
> Ron Parker wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:40:07 +0100, Spider <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote:
> > >What more is it, a simple erronious compile could be disasterous.... Ie. If it
was
> > >compiled for JDK1.2, instead of 1.1.x .... That would mean taht several users
can't access
> > >it, but it will work on the computer it was created on...
> >
> > Somebody stop me...
> >
> > Too late.  Write once, run anywhere?  Whazzat?
> Hm... I belive it is called.... Ehh... Human information viruses??
> 
> Yeah, that's it...
> Human information viruses...
> 
> //Spider

HIV ?

-- 
Ken Tyler

tyl### [at] pacbellnet


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Arabeske 0.9e7... Oops!
Date: 27 Jan 1999 17:11:23
Message: <36AF8DFC.4EAC8699@bahnhof.se>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Spider wrote:
> >
> > Ron Parker wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:40:07 +0100, Spider <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote:
> > > >What more is it, a simple erronious compile could be disasterous.... Ie. If it
was
> > > >compiled for JDK1.2, instead of 1.1.x .... That would mean taht several users
can't access
> > > >it, but it will work on the computer it was created on...
> > >
> > > Somebody stop me...
> > >
> > > Too late.  Write once, run anywhere?  Whazzat?
> > Hm... I belive it is called.... Ehh... Human information viruses??
> >
> > Yeah, that's it...
> > Human information viruses...
> >
> > //Spider
> 
> HIV ?
*laugh*
Didn't think of htat... but... It's a pretty good one..
Anyone here deeply religious: ____Don't flame me_____

According to Mark Fabi in his book, "Wyrm" religion is a virus in the human mind, the
same
way the good-times and various variants are.... *grin*

//Spider


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From: Francois Dispot
Subject: Re: Arabeske 0.9e7... Oops!
Date: 29 Jan 1999 17:42:27
Message: <36B23914.A73F1581@club-internet.fr>
Spider wrote:
> 
> Rudy Velthuis wrote:
> >
> > Johannes Hubert schrieb in Nachricht <36ade355.0@news.povray.org>...
> > >Whoa! That is understatement if I ever heard one! To call a bug that
> > >prevents 99% of all users to run the program a "minor" one! :-o
> > >
> > >Johannes.
> >
> > Whoa! you're right. But I think he means the bug was just something like a
> > typo or a wrong declaration and not something fundamentally wrong. Still,
> > even a typo or forgetting to free a memory object can be very dangerous too
> > (and sometimes much harder to find, btw).
> 
> Since it is JAVA, memory is not that much of an issue...
> But I agree wtih the typo/wrong def. thing...
> What more is it, a simple erronious compile could be disasterous.... Ie. If it was
> compiled for JDK1.2, instead of 1.1.x .... That would mean taht several users can't
access
> it, but it will work on the computer it was created on...
> 
> //Spider

Wow! Thanks everybody for all this enthousiastic feedback! And the
understatement was not really an accident ;-)

Spider got it: Sun does not provide a way to ensure the version
compatibility of your code. Precisely you can ensure your code is 1.1.x
or 1.2 compatible, but not 1.0... and most browsers are 1.0 compatible
and not more unless... you have the Java plug-in, like me, and here
comes the "bug" :-( This project was started more than 1 year ago, and
since then Sun hasn't stopped to do whatever they could to prevent Java
from expanding correctly: version changes every 2 months, compatibility
changes with every minor release... I hope they won't be surprised it
their attempt fails.

So Johannes, since the source is free you can checked that I only
commented ONE line to make it 100% compatible (I hope) instead of 1%.
And note that m$ ie4 claims that it is 1.1 compatible, which is false
and a reason for an ongoing trial.

Now this short explaination is over, I think the next release would
appear by april, with a full real gui and no need to enter coordinates.

-- 

http://www.geocities.com/vienna/7709
_  _  _  _   ______  _____  _____      _____  _____  _
|| ||// //  //   // /___ / /___ /     / ___/ / ___/ //
|| |// //  //   //     //     //     / /__  / /    //__
|| // //  //   //     //     //     / ___/ / /    //|__|
||//|//  //   //     //___  //___  / /__  / /__  // ||
|//|//  //___//     /____/ /____/ /____/ /____/ //  ||


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Arabeske 0.9e7... Oops!
Date: 29 Jan 1999 20:01:11
Message: <36B258BE.7E4E9A48@bahnhof.se>
Francois Dispot wrote:
> 
> Spider wrote:
> >
> > Rudy Velthuis wrote:
> > >
> > > Johannes Hubert schrieb in Nachricht <36ade355.0@news.povray.org>...
> > > >Whoa! That is understatement if I ever heard one! To call a bug that
> > > >prevents 99% of all users to run the program a "minor" one! :-o
> > > >
> > > >Johannes.
> > >
> > > Whoa! you're right. But I think he means the bug was just something like a
> > > typo or a wrong declaration and not something fundamentally wrong. Still,
> > > even a typo or forgetting to free a memory object can be very dangerous too
> > > (and sometimes much harder to find, btw).
> >
> > Since it is JAVA, memory is not that much of an issue...
> > But I agree wtih the typo/wrong def. thing...
> > What more is it, a simple erronious compile could be disasterous.... Ie. If it was
> > compiled for JDK1.2, instead of 1.1.x .... That would mean taht several users
can't access
> > it, but it will work on the computer it was created on...
> >
> > //Spider
> 
> Wow! Thanks everybody for all this enthousiastic feedback! And the
> understatement was not really an accident ;-)
*smile* 
> Spider got it: Sun does not provide a way to ensure the version
> compatibility of your code. Precisely you can ensure your code is 1.1.x
> or 1.2 compatible, but not 1.0... and most browsers are 1.0 compatible
> and not more unless... you have the Java plug-in, like me, and here
> comes the "bug" :-( This project was started more than 1 year ago, and
> since then Sun hasn't stopped to do whatever they could to prevent Java
> from expanding correctly: version changes every 2 months, compatibility
> changes with every minor release... I hope they won't be surprised it
> their attempt fails.

Yeeee, I was right !!! **paarty**

> So Johannes, since the source is free you can checked that I only
> commented ONE line to make it 100% compatible (I hope) instead of 1%.
> And note that m$ ie4 claims that it is 1.1 compatible, which is false
> and a reason for an ongoing trial.
hehe, I've had BAD experiences with the java-plug getting installed... Changed the
character set for me... Had to uninstall JDK1.2 :-/
 
> Now this short explaination is over, I think the next release would
> appear by april, with a full real gui and no need to enter coordinates.
Neat, I'll take a look at it (if I find a use for it)

//Spider


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