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From: povray org admin team
Subject: Windows 95 query
Date: 16 Oct 1998 09:27:13
Message: <36273b5c.10755545@news.povray.org>
Quick question for those of you who can answer:

Does a standard (i.e. installed straight off the CD, nothing else added)
Windows 95 system (as originally released back in 1995) have the font 'Lucida
Console' installed by default ?

For that matter, does Windows 98 have this font either ?


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Windows 95 query
Date: 16 Oct 1998 09:42:08
Message: <36273F01.7AC9104C@pacbell.net>
povray.org admin team wrote:

> Quick question for those of you who can answer:
>
> Does a standard (i.e. installed straight off the CD, nothing else added)
> Windows 95 system (as originally released back in 1995) have the font 'Lucida
> Console' installed by default ?
>
> For that matter, does Windows 98 have this font either ?

My windows 98 install put the following in my fonts directory and
each are dated this year :

Lucida Console
Lucida Sans Unicode
Lucida Sans Italic
Lucida handwriting Italic

I can no longer check on the win 95 version.

Ken Tyler


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From: Jon S  Berndt
Subject: Re: Windows 95 query
Date: 16 Oct 1998 10:12:21
Message: <36274635.0@news.povray.org>
Windows 95 did not install those fonts on my system.


povray.org admin team wrote in message
<36273b5c.10755545@news.povray.org>...
>Quick question for those of you who can answer:
>
>Does a standard (i.e. installed straight off the CD, nothing else added)
>Windows 95 system (as originally released back in 1995) have the font
'Lucida
>Console' installed by default ?
>
>For that matter, does Windows 98 have this font either ?


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From: Fabien Mosen
Subject: Re: Windows 95 query
Date: 16 Oct 1998 13:56:50
Message: <36277ad2.0@news.povray.org>
new### [at] DESPAMpovrayorg says...
>

>Does a standard (i.e. installed straight off the CD, nothing else added)
>Windows 95 system (as originally released back in 1995) have the font 'Lucida
>Console' installed by default ?

No.  The Lucida font is part of the "Microsoft Plus" pack...

Fabien.


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From: Ross Smith
Subject: Re: Windows 95 query
Date: 17 Oct 1998 02:48:11
Message: <36282FCE.7977@ihug.co.nz>
povray.org admin team wrote:
> 
> Quick question for those of you who can answer:
> 
> Does a standard (i.e. installed straight off the CD, nothing else added)
> Windows 95 system (as originally released back in 1995) have the font 'Lucida
> Console' installed by default ?

No. The only Truetype fonts that you can trust to be present on *every*
Win32 box are Arial, Courier New, and Times New Roman.

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From: Johannes Hubert
Subject: Re: Windows 95 query
Date: 17 Oct 1998 07:31:47
Message: <36287213.0@news.povray.org>
Ross Smith wrote in message <362### [at] ihugconz>...
>
>No. The only Truetype fonts that you can trust to be present on *every*
>Win32 box are Arial, Courier New, and Times New Roman.
>


Are you sure? I would guess that MS Sans Serif is always included too, since
it is the default font to draw all dialogs, menus etc. (not Arial, though
they are very similar).

Johannes.


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From: Ronald L  Parker
Subject: Re: Windows 95 query
Date: 17 Oct 1998 13:54:15
Message: <3628cb29.395770@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:39:19 +0200, "Johannes Hubert"
<jhu### [at] algonetse> wrote:

>Ross Smith wrote in message <362### [at] ihugconz>...
>>
>>No. The only Truetype fonts that you can trust to be present on *every*
>>Win32 box are Arial, Courier New, and Times New Roman.
>
>Are you sure? I would guess that MS Sans Serif is always included too, since
>it is the default font to draw all dialogs, menus etc. (not Arial, though
>they are very similar).

MS Sans Serif isn't a TrueType font.  OSR2 also comes with Comic,
Impact, and Verdana.  Of course, there's also WingDings, but that
isn't of much use for text.


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From: Eric Freeman
Subject: Re: Windows 95 query
Date: 19 Oct 1998 03:03:15
Message: <362ad623.0@news.povray.org>
Ross Smith wrote in message <362### [at] ihugconz>...
>No. The only Truetype fonts that you can trust to be present on *every*
>Win32 box are Arial, Courier New, and Times New Roman.

Don't forget Tahoma.

Eric


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Windows 95 query
Date: 19 Oct 1998 11:11:56
Message: <362b48ac.0@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:03:09 -0500, Eric Freeman <eri### [at] geocitiescom> wrote:
>Ross Smith wrote in message <362### [at] ihugconz>...
>>No. The only Truetype fonts that you can trust to be present on *every*
>>Win32 box are Arial, Courier New, and Times New Roman.
>
>Don't forget Tahoma.

I have a virgin installation of Win95, August 1995 version, installed here 
and I don't see Tahoma listed.  Neither is it listed on my NT 4.0 installation,
either SP3 or SP4 beta.  It was apparently included with Win98 and NT5 beta 2, 
however.  So I wouldn't trust it to be present on every win32 box - it's only
present on two of the five Win32 operating systems that run on this machine, 
and both were released within the past few months.

Arial Black, Comic Sans, the Verdana family, and Impact MT seem to have been
included with IE 3 and higher, which explains their widespread presence, and
they are (afaik) available from Microsoft for free, so if there's a pressing
need for Verdana, it wouldn't be that big a deal to provide a link to MS' 
website for anyone not having it.


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From: Colm Hayden
Subject: Mobius Strip help
Date: 20 Oct 1998 11:03:34
Message: <362C982A.62059A14@apion-tss.com>
Hi all, could anyone please help me.

I would like (desperatley need) to render a mobius strip in POV-Ray but
can't figure out how. Does anyone know? Any help greatly appreciated.


The equation for a Mobius Strip is :

The mobius strip in 3 dimensions can be represented parameterically
f(s,t) as follows 

x = cos(s) + t * cos(s/2) * cos(s)
y = sin(s) + t * cos(s/2) * sin(s)
z = t * sin(s/2)



where s ranges from 0 to 2*pi and t ranges typically from -0.3 to 0.3.


Thanks in Advance,

Colm.

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Colm Hayden

Phone: 	+44 1232 269166
FAX:	+44 1232 269111


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