To prolonge my status as a technical (hopefully not allround) nitwit I
have the following questions:
(btw - I'm not too good with English either so if this sounds
nonsensical to you just have a good laugh)

- for some images parsing takes more time then the actual rendering.
This has something to do with the amount of objects in the scene, I
reckon. For some of my scenes parsing really got out of hand and had my
systems rattling for a couple of hours. This has probably got something
to do with the swap-file (I use Win95), so it's a matter of memory. Is
there a way to determin how much memory an object will need (doesn't
have to be very exact)? Is it true that adding lightsources increases
the amount of memory needed (dramatically)? I know about the rendering,
but at this moment I have more troubles with parsing and I'm seriously
considering adding another 64Mb to my new system.
- this may sound as a stupid one: with v3.01 you could keep POVray in a
small Window on top of other applications. I couldn't find that option
in v3.1 but that's not my problem. At this moment my computer is
rendering one large scene (takes a couple of days) and an animation.
They're both about halfway, but I could stop the animation to speed up
the other session. The problem is, I accidentally pulled out the
mouseplug and now the mouse doesn't work anymore (yes: I did plug it
back in again :-)). So I was wondering if I could get at that sessions
with the keyboard (Win95) again, or is double-clicking the only way?

- while I'm at it: is it possible to stop a rendering session, close
POVray and continue the session where you left of? (it's probably
somewhere in the docs, but I haven't found it still).

My apologies if my story is a bit long.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Regards,

Remco de Korte

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Remco de Korte wrote:
> I'm seriously
> considering adding another 64Mb to my new system.


Do it, if possible.  I went 64-128 and don't know how I 
managed before.  W95 is a resource hog.... the first
32 MB is basically used up by it.  So 64->128 triples
available memory.

Look at the "peak memory used" data on your output.... if
it's more than 20-30MB, you probably want to upgrade.


> - while I'm at it: is it possible to stop a rendering session, close
> POVray and continue the session where you left of? (it's probably
> somewhere in the docs, but I haven't found it still).

Yes.... well, actually, you continue after the last
completed line which was written to the file.

Look up "Continue_Trace" or "+C" in "General Output
Options" in the docs.

-- 
http://www.flash.net/~djconnel/

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Dan Connelly wrote:
> 
> Remco de Korte wrote:
> > I'm seriously
> > considering adding another 64Mb to my new system.
> 
> Do it, if possible.  I went 64-128 and don't know how I
> managed before.  W95 is a resource hog.... the first
> 32 MB is basically used up by it.  So 64->128 triples
> available memory.
> 
> Look at the "peak memory used" data on your output.... if
> it's more than 20-30MB, you probably want to upgrade.
> 
> > - while I'm at it: is it possible to stop a rendering session, close
> > POVray and continue the session where you left of? (it's probably
> > somewhere in the docs, but I haven't found it still).
> 
> Yes.... well, actually, you continue after the last
> completed line which was written to the file.
> 
> Look up "Continue_Trace" or "+C" in "General Output
> Options" in the docs.
> 
> --
> http://www.flash.net/~djconnel/

Wow, that's fast!
Thanks.

Remco

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Remco de Korte wrote:

> - for some images parsing takes more time then the actual rendering.
> I know about the rendering,
> but at this moment I have more troubles with parsing and I'm seriously
> considering adding another 64Mb to my new system.

The rendering times are increased mainly for the following reasons.* Image
quality
* # of reflecive surfaces
* # of lights
* The use of filtered pigments and glass textures.
Parsing time is generaly # of objects and the complexity
if their construcion.
YES ! Add Ram if you can.

> So I was wondering if I could get at that sessions
> with the keyboard (Win95) again, or is double-clicking the only way?

******Using shortcut keys in Windows
To       Press
Activate the menu bar in programs* F10
Carry out the command on the menu* ALT+underlined letter in menu
Close the current window in   (MDI) programs.* CTRL+F4
Close the current window or quit a program* ALT+F4
Copy* CTRL+C
Cut* CTRL+X
Delete* DELETE
Display Help on the selected dialog box item* F1

Display the shortcut menu for the selected item* SHIFT+F10
Display the Start menu* CTRL+ESC
Display the system menu for MDI programs* ALT+HYPHEN (-)
Paste* CTRL+V
******Switch to the window you last used
-Or-
Switch to another window by holding down ALT while
repeatedly pressing TAB ALT+TAB
Undo CTRL+Z

> - while I'm at it: is it possible to stop a rendering session, close
> POVray and continue the session where you left of? (it's probably
> somewhere in the docs, but I haven't found it still).

There is an option in the render section on the main  menu bar.
Scroll all the way to the bottom of the menu and choose continue
rendering --  pov will prompt you with the name of the last
rendered file.

>   My apologies if my story is a bit long.

It's all right.

> Regards,
> Remco de Korte

  Suleemon'

Ken Tyler

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> > So I was wondering if I could get at that sessions
> > with the keyboard (Win95) again, or is double-clicking the only way?
> 
> ******Using shortcut keys in Windows
> To       Press
> Activate the menu bar in programs* F10
> Carry out the command on the menu* ALT+underlined letter in menu
> Close the current window in   (MDI) programs.* CTRL+F4
> Close the current window or quit a program* ALT+F4
> Copy* CTRL+C
> Cut* CTRL+X
> Delete* DELETE
> Display Help on the selected dialog box item* F1

> Display the shortcut menu for the selected item* SHIFT+F10
> Display the Start menu* CTRL+ESC
> Display the system menu for MDI programs* ALT+HYPHEN (-)
> Paste* CTRL+V
> ******Switch to the window you last used
> -Or-
> Switch to another window by holding down ALT while
> repeatedly pressing TAB ALT+TAB
> Undo CTRL+Z
> 
Oooops, I'll try that.

Thanks,

Remco

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Remco de Korte wrote:
> 
> > > So I was wondering if I could get at that sessions
> > > with the keyboard (Win95) again, or is double-clicking the only way?
> >
> > ******Using shortcut keys in Windows
> > To       Press
> > Activate the menu bar in programs* F10
> > Carry out the command on the menu* ALT+underlined letter in menu
> > Close the current window in   (MDI) programs.* CTRL+F4
> > Close the current window or quit a program* ALT+F4
> > Copy* CTRL+C
> > Cut* CTRL+X
> > Delete* DELETE
> > Display Help on the selected dialog box item* F1

> > Display the shortcut menu for the selected item* SHIFT+F10
> > Display the Start menu* CTRL+ESC
> > Display the system menu for MDI programs* ALT+HYPHEN (-)
> > Paste* CTRL+V
> > ******Switch to the window you last used
> > -Or-
> > Switch to another window by holding down ALT while
> > repeatedly pressing TAB ALT+TAB
> > Undo CTRL+Z
> >
> Oooops, I'll try that.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Remco

Ehm, when I looked at the list a bit closer I saw these were just the obvious
shortcuts when you're already "in" the editor. My problem is that I want to get
access to it. It's the same when you've put POVray in the systray (still Win95):
how do you restore the main-window when for some (stupid) reason you can't use a
mouse (cat around)?
Meanwhile I'll just wait until it's finished rendering and restart the computer.
Hopefully tomorrow...

Remco

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You can control the mouse with the keyboard.
use CTRL-ESC to open the start menu, then arrow up to settings, left
arrow to control panel.  In control panel run the Accessability Options
and by using the TAB key, put the highlight on the tabs at the top and
left arrow over to the mouse tab.  Then TAB once more to highlight the
check box and hit the space bar.  Then tab to apply and hit enter.  You
should now be able to control the mouse cursor with your arrow keys.

Steve

Remco de Korte wrote:
> 
> To prolonge my status as a technical (hopefully not allround) nitwit I
> have the following questions:
> (btw - I'm not too good with English either so if this sounds
> nonsensical to you just have a good laugh)
> 
> - for some images parsing takes more time then the actual rendering.
> This has something to do with the amount of objects in the scene, I
> reckon. For some of my scenes parsing really got out of hand and had my
> systems rattling for a couple of hours. This has probably got something
> to do with the swap-file (I use Win95), so it's a matter of memory. Is
> there a way to determin how much memory an object will need (doesn't
> have to be very exact)? Is it true that adding lightsources increases
> the amount of memory needed (dramatically)? I know about the rendering,
> but at this moment I have more troubles with parsing and I'm seriously
> considering adding another 64Mb to my new system.
> - this may sound as a stupid one: with v3.01 you could keep POVray in a
> small Window on top of other applications. I couldn't find that option
> in v3.1 but that's not my problem. At this moment my computer is
> rendering one large scene (takes a couple of days) and an animation.
> They're both about halfway, but I could stop the animation to speed up
> the other session. The problem is, I accidentally pulled out the
> mouseplug and now the mouse doesn't work anymore (yes: I did plug it
> back in again :-)). So I was wondering if I could get at that sessions
> with the keyboard (Win95) again, or is double-clicking the only way?
> 
> - while I'm at it: is it possible to stop a rendering session, close
> POVray and continue the session where you left of? (it's probably
> somewhere in the docs, but I haven't found it still).
> 
> My apologies if my story is a bit long.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Remco de Korte

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