I tried to load up POV3.1b4 on my Mac, running System 7.6.1, and was
told that I neededAppearance Manager. This is a product I have not heard
of outside of the Appearance control panel in OS8? Has anyone else heard
of this?

Josh English
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Josh English wrote:
> 
> I tried to load up POV3.1b4 on my Mac, running System 7.6.1, and was
> told that I neededAppearance Manager. This is a product I have not heard
> of outside of the Appearance control panel in OS8? Has anyone else heard
> of this?
> 

That comes with the Appearance control panel, I think. I'm not sure why this
is necessary for Pov-Ray other than that it makes it look nicer. An
improvement, yes; but I'm unconvinced that they couldn't simply have left the
previous interface for the Preferences window if the control panel was missing.
Anyway, I forget whether or not MacOS 7.6 has the Appearance cdev or not...
but it sounds like you don't have it... so my only suggestion is to see if
your computer (and wallet) will let you install MacOS 8. I know that's not
great to hear (or read) if you just want to use a free program but unless they
remove that requirement you may have to...
(And to anyone who thought Apple was gonna die, please read the Business
section today :)

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Oops!
Beaten to it by a different thread (network use)...

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In article <35AF13B8.566D0D5E@usa.net> , "Mark R." <boi### [at] usanet> wrote:

>Oops!
>Beaten to it by a different thread (network use)...

Thats not your fault, its mine, I accidently posted the reply to this in the wrong
thread. Sorry!!!



Thorsten

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>That comes with the Appearance control panel, I think. I'm not sure why this
>is necessary for Pov-Ray other than that it makes it look nicer. An
>improvement, yes; but I'm unconvinced that they couldn't simply have left the
>previous interface for the Preferences window if the control panel was missing.
>Anyway, I forget whether or not MacOS 7.6 has the Appearance cdev or not...
>but it sounds like you don't have it... so my only suggestion is to see if
>your computer (and wallet) will let you install MacOS 8. I know that's not
>great to hear (or read) if you just want to use a free program but unless they
>remove that requirement you may have to...

Let me explain this... We use the appearance manager for a simple reason: clean code!
The Appearance Manager adds a lot of stuff to the APIs and building dialogs is much
easier. Additionally, the old code would not have worked very well with the MacOS 8.5
themes. If you try it now, you will see that it works just fine. So it is not simply a
random requirement, it is absolutly needed for future compatibility! Of course we
could have let the interface as it was and move it to windows, but then we would have
had to add a lot of "features" by hand, e.g. the original toolbox does not offer a
simple way to deactivate all controls in a window/dialog at once - therfore the
controls would have to be deactivated by hand when the window is in background. With
the appearance manager its just *one* function call! And in the fisrt internal alpha
version I implemented the image window controls by hand (without appearance manager),
and after we decided to use appearance manager I could easily throw out more than 10%
of the code and still have a better/cleaner user interface. The same goes for the
dialogs. E.g. in the Application Preferences dialog there is the nice feature of the
fonts displayed in their native styles - this required a special, selfmade MDEF before
appearance manager!
I hope this makes things clear. And if you still don't believe appearance manager is
useful, I invite you to look into the source code as soon as the final version is out!
- Then, I am sure, you wikll know why we made this decision!!!


Thorsten

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