"Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> wrote:

> Plus, I asked a few people (not related to this competition), and they all
> seemed to think that midnight October 15 occurred at the end of the day of
> October 15th.

same here, but then i'm Dutch..

i would have been to late now anyway.

thanks.

Hi,

Is the server time posted on this website the standard time that the
competition will go by?

Thanks,
Johnny

"Jaap" <jws### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> "Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> wrote:
>
> > Plus, I asked a few people (not related to this competition), and they all
> > seemed to think that midnight October 15 occurred at the end of the day of
> > October 15th.
>
> same here, but then i'm Dutch..
>
> i would have been to late now anyway.
>
> thanks.

"j" <phazxero[at]hotmail[dot]com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is the server time posted on this website the standard time that the
> competition will go by?

I don't think so.  Server Time is in GMT, and the competition is supposed to
follow 'local time', which I assume to be Australian.

This page

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

could be of help.   I suppose we have roughly 20 hours to go.

:-)

--
jussi.kantola

"jute" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> I suppose we have roughly 20 hours to go.

great!
i have only 1..2 hours of rendering to go. no worries...

render tip of the day:
check your system for bad ram BEFORE starting realy big renders.

jaap.

Well, I got mine done and submitted yesterday morning.  I wish they'd had a
countdown clock so it would be easy to see exactly how much time was left.
That would be a good addition to the competition next time.

indeed. the irtc does this pretty well. perhaps a faq page would be good
too.

"rben" <ray### [at] comcastnet> wrote:
> Well, I got mine done and submitted yesterday morning.  I wish they'd had a
> countdown clock so it would be easy to see exactly how much time was left.
> That would be a good addition to the competition next time.

Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
> I actually had that same question.  There could be a difference of
> interpretation in that regard.
>
> 12:00am October 15th would be 24 hours before what I would consider
> midnight October 15th.  I don't make the rules, but I can assume that
> they would have a lot of really angry people if they interpreted it
> the same way that a person would interpret 12:00am October 15th.
>
> Plus, I asked a few people (not related to this competition), and
> they all seemed to think that midnight October 15 occurred at the end
> of the day of October 15th.

The ISO-8601 standard could have been used to avoid confusion.

The word "midnight" is not ambiguous at all.  It is well defined in every 
English dictionary.

Personally I am really disappointed that a few people here try to infer bad
intentions by default and challenge even the most basic and common terms of
every day life.  IMHO this is not only inappropriate but also uncalled for.

    Thorsten

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"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote in message
news:4173e6bf$1@news.povray.org...
> The word "midnight" is not ambiguous at all.  It is well defined in every
> English dictionary.
>
> Personally I am really disappointed that a few people here try to infer
> bad
> intentions by default and challenge even the most basic and common terms
> of
> every day life.

My guess is that you were part of the rules-making process.  If so, I think
you did a great job!  But with anything new, there were bound to be some
misunderstandings.  If several people have the same stupid question,
sometimes it's worth clarifying.  That doesn't mean that the rules
themselves were misleading, it simply means that the same sentence can mean
different things to different people.

There were a few comments made regarding rule changes, but most of the rest
of the discussions simply related to possible interpretations of the rules.
I don't know if you generally read through the IRTC newsgroups, but rules
questions often come up there as well, and the IRTC is an established
competition.  I don't think anyone honestly believes that the organizers
created this contest in bad faith or with bad intent.  Clarification of the
rules is part of the process.  In the end, everyone involved benefits from
this discussion.

For me, the competition was a very positive experience.  I'm aware of
several people dropping out, but they dropped-out for personal reasons
unrelated to the competition itself.  I hope there was a large drawing,
because I would like to see more competitions like this in the future.  And,
I'm looking forward to seeing the other entries!  I like to be awed.  :-)

> IMHO this is not only inappropriate but also uncalled for.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

If you would like to continue this discussion in off-topic, I'd be happy to
respond, and perhaps others would feel more free to respond there as well.
My impression is that this competition has been very positively received,
but perhaps I'm not seeing the bigger picture.

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com

Thorsten Froehlich wrote:

> The word "midnight" is not ambiguous at all.  It is well defined in every
> English dictionary.

Whatsamatta? Hasn't anyone here ever hit a deadline before? ;-)

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