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From: Chris Holtorf
Subject: Results
Date: 2 Feb 2005 04:29:07
Message: <1103_1107318647@news.povray.org>
Any idea on when we will hear something regarding the next step in the contest process
?

Chris Holtorf
From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Results
Date: 2 Feb 2005 04:57:14
Message: <42005daa@news.povray.org>
"Chris Holtorf" <lho### [at] nwlinkcom> wrote in message
news:1103_1107318647@news.povray.org...
> Any idea on when we will hear something regarding the next step in the contest
process ?

Hey Chris, I recall reading somewhere (I think on one of the sponsors'
websites - perhaps Appro's) that the plan was to announce the winners during
this year's LinuxWorld (which runs from the 14th to 17th of this month in
Boston).  However, this is just from my memory and should NOT be taken in any
way as being official - this is just what I recall having seen.  The official
word on what's going on will most probably come from Chris Cason during the next
two weeks, so keep an eye out for messages from him on here, and the news
section of the POVCOMP website.

Lance.

thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au
thehandle - www.thehandle.com
From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: Results
Date: 2 Feb 2005 13:31:49
Message: <4200d645@news.povray.org>
"Lance Birch" <-> wrote in message news:42005daa@news.povray.org...
> "Chris Holtorf" <lho### [at] nwlinkcom> wrote in message
> news:1103_1107318647@news.povray.org...
>> Any idea on when we will hear something regarding the next step in the 
>> contest
> process ?
>
> Hey Chris, I recall reading somewhere... <snip>


Probably here:
http://www.povcomp.com/rules/ "Competition Timeframe"

Or perhaps the Chris was wondering if there would be something in-between 
the submission and the announcement.  If so, we haven't heard anything 
either way.

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com
From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Results
Date: 2 Feb 2005 13:51:01
Message: <4200dac5@news.povray.org>
"Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> wrote in message
news:4200d645@news.povray.org...
> "Lance Birch" <-> wrote in message news:42005daa@news.povray.org...
> > "Chris Holtorf" <lho### [at] nwlinkcom> wrote in message
> > news:1103_1107318647@news.povray.org...
> >> Any idea on when we will hear something regarding the next step in the
> >> contest
> > process ?
> >
> > Hey Chris, I recall reading somewhere... <snip>
>
>
> Probably here:
> http://www.povcomp.com/rules/ "Competition Timeframe"

Ah, so it was indeed - and I just found it on the Appro website as well.

> Or perhaps the Chris was wondering if there would be something in-between
> the submission and the announcement.  If so, we haven't heard anything
> either way.

I see what you mean now.  I can't really think of anything that could be
announced between the close of the competition and announcing the winners,
though.  Perhaps only little notes like "judging has begun", "judging is now
finalised", etc.

Lance.

thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au
thehandle - www.thehandle.com
From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: Results
Date: 2 Feb 2005 14:59:48
Message: <4200eae4$1@news.povray.org>
"Lance Birch" <-> wrote in message news:4200dac5@news.povray.org...
>
> I see what you mean now.  I can't really think of anything that could be
> announced between the close of the competition and announcing the winners,
> though.  Perhaps only little notes like "judging has begun", "judging is 
> now
> finalised", etc.
>


Once judging is finished, but before any announcement, it might be nice to 
see all of the competing images together.  But I don't have any idea how 
long judging will take, so perhaps that's out of the question.

Hopefully, we'll get some sort of announcement, such as how many competing 
images there are.  Personally, I hope the quality of the submissions has 
improved significantly since October.  POV-Ray can do incredible things. 
Hopefully, we've proven it here.

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com
From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Results
Date: 3 Feb 2005 17:15:35
Message: <42025c37@news.povray.org>
"Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> a écrit dans le message de
news:4200eae4$1@news.povray.org...

> Hopefully, we've proven it here.

Just had a very quick look. This was well worth the wait. Lots of superb
images and many of them are *** really *** impressive.

G.

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From: St 
Subject: Re: Results
Date: 3 Feb 2005 18:42:38
Message: <4202709e@news.povray.org>
"Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr> wrote in message 
news:42025c37@news.povray.org...
> "Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> a écrit dans le message de
> news:4200eae4$1@news.povray.org...
>
>> Hopefully, we've proven it here.
>
> Just had a very quick look. This was well worth the wait. Lots of superb
> images and many of them are *** really *** impressive.

 Good job I didn't enter in the end then. I embarrass myself enough already.


   ~Steve~


> G.
From: Slime
Subject: Re: Results
Date: 3 Feb 2005 21:15:17
Message: <42029465@news.povray.org>
> > Just had a very quick look. This was well worth the wait. Lots of superb
> > images and many of them are *** really *** impressive.

Yay!

>  Good job I didn't enter in the end then. I embarrass myself enough
already.


It seems like a lot of people had this attitude about the competition. I
think it's sad. If you put months of hard work into something and get it
into a state that you feel is completed, then you should never be ashamed of
it, regardless of how it looks next to anything else. And more importantly,
everyone who is skilled at something was once unskilled at it. (Even Gilles
Tran's early work looks like everyone else's.) Holding back gets you
nowhere. Povcomp was an excellent opportunity for everyone to develop their
skills and I wish more people had taken advantage of it.

Being critical of one's own work is important, but only for the sake of
self-improvement.

What I'm saying here doesn't apply just to povcomp, or even just to POV-Ray.
Never decide that you aren't capable of being as good as (or better than)
the best! Believing in your own potential is necessary to achieve it.

 - Slime
 [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Results
Date: 3 Feb 2005 23:08:43
Message: <4202aefb$1@news.povray.org>
Slime wrote:
>>>Just had a very quick look. This was well worth the wait. Lots of superb
>>>images and many of them are *** really *** impressive.
> 
> 
> Yay!
> 
> 
>> Good job I didn't enter in the end then. I embarrass myself enough
> 
> already.
> 
> 
> It seems like a lot of people had this attitude about the competition. I
> think it's sad. If you put months of hard work into something and get it
> into a state that you feel is completed, then you should never be ashamed of
> it, regardless of how it looks next to anything else. And more importantly,
> everyone who is skilled at something was once unskilled at it. (Even Gilles
> Tran's early work looks like everyone else's.) Holding back gets you
> nowhere. Povcomp was an excellent opportunity for everyone to develop their
> skills and I wish more people had taken advantage of it.
> 
> Being critical of one's own work is important, but only for the sake of
> self-improvement.
> 
> What I'm saying here doesn't apply just to povcomp, or even just to POV-Ray.
> Never decide that you aren't capable of being as good as (or better than)
> the best! Believing in your own potential is necessary to achieve it.
> 
>  - Slime
>  [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
> 
> 
Good words.  But I think they are a bit ironic here since Steve was one 
of the most vocal proponents of that very viewpoint throughout the 
contest, and he was kind of an inspiration to me.  I'm not taking his 
post in a totally straighforward way.  I think he is still trying to 
come to grips with the "loss" of not fielding an entry, after he worked 
so hard and long, rising from the ashes twice if I've understood 
correctly.  He had to make a tough decision to self-edit based on what 
he felt, in the end, were serious technical flaws with his entry.  That 
takes a certain kind of toughness too.

-Jim
From: Slime
Subject: Re: Results
Date: 3 Feb 2005 23:40:05
Message: <4202b655$1@news.povray.org>
> Good words.  But I think they are a bit ironic here since Steve was one
> of the most vocal proponents of that very viewpoint throughout the
> contest, and he was kind of an inspiration to me.  I'm not taking his
> post in a totally straighforward way.  I think he is still trying to
> come to grips with the "loss" of not fielding an entry, after he worked
> so hard and long, rising from the ashes twice if I've understood
> correctly.  He had to make a tough decision to self-edit based on what
> he felt, in the end, were serious technical flaws with his entry.  That
> takes a certain kind of toughness too.

I guess I didn't fully understand Steve's situation. In any case, my post
was also in response to many other posts I've seen on the newsgroups in the
last few days; I just figured this would be a good place to say it.

 - Slime
 [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
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