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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: xkcd colors
Date: 13 Jul 2010 12:46:32
Message: <4c3c9868$1@news.povray.org>
On 13/07/2010 2:04 AM, waggy wrote:

> I missed a few the first time through.  I just finished categorizing most of the
> colors, and still can't decide whether weird, or what.
>

I think BOOGER is weird for a name.

> I did send the attached image to my equally nerdy sweety; the center object is
> BLOOD_RED, while the others are the eleven shades of rose defined in the file,
> though only eight are visible.  The scene file [favsurf.pov] and object is by
> Alex Kluchikov, 2003; I just duplicated, transformed, and colored it.
>

BLOOD_RED, is that arterial blood or venous blood? That is a "what".


>>
>> Ooo! Deep and dark thoughts. Are you a Juju man?
>
> Just a civil engineer in training and a grad student of mechanical engineering.
> Whatever Juju I may have is reverse-polish.
>

Oh! Mighty big Juju, or do I mean Jujitsu?

> [snip]

>>
> Thanks.  There are enough dirty, muddy, rusty, ugly, gross, icky, nasty, sick,
> and other unpleasant and scatological colors to model as much rubbish as you
> like.  (There is only one color named with a 'positive' adjective: NICE_BLUE.)
>

Shows how the voting public think. :-(


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Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: robotguy
Subject: Re: xkcd colors
Date: 19 Jul 2010 04:35:01
Message: <web.4c440db43ccde340926a7e230@news.povray.org>
"waggy" <hon### [at] handbasketorg> wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
> > You counted them?
> >
> > Weird or what? ;-)
>
> I could claim a legitimate use for modeling wastewater treatment systems...
>
> > Red, green or blue is good enough for me. :-)
>
> Ah, but there is power in naming things.
>
> The original author converted all spaces, slashes, and apostrophes
> to underscores, resulting in some name duplications and redeclared variables.
> Instead, the attached file changed slash characters to _SLASH_,
> apostrophes to _APOS_, and only spaces to underscores.
>
> I also combined macros by Clipka and Peter Santo to declare all the colors from
> the original file with a picked-color gamma correction.  You may declare
> xkcd_picked_gamma before including the attached file to override the default of
> 2.2.
>
> ~waggy

I'm not surprised I missed a few; the original file wasn't exactly harmonious
with the spreadsheet software (OpenOffice.org) and if I had any hair I would've
torn some out.  After a while I just didn't care if robins egg blue and robin's
egg blue were different colors.

Ed


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From: waggy
Subject: Re: xkcd colors
Date: 20 Jul 2010 01:55:00
Message: <web.4c45396d3ccde340f99d05c80@news.povray.org>
"robotguy" wrote:
> I'm not surprised I missed a few; the original file wasn't exactly harmonious
> with the spreadsheet software (OpenOffice.org) and if I had any hair I would've
> torn some out.  After a while I just didn't care if robins egg blue and robin's
> egg blue were different colors.
>
Thanks for posting this!

My personal weapon of choice for this kind of thing is a text editor, with
liberal application of the undo function.  From reading what Monroe wrote about
it, most (but not all) of these colors should have been consolidated to a single
value anyway.  Since this should be done by reprocessing the raw data (which is
also available), I passed on it for now.  As many have attested, and I can also
confirm from personal experience, working with color names is something that
drives people insane.  (I suppose it won't be long before it's adopted for
"enhanced interrogation" in some form.)

Two things I like about the resulting list: being able to just type what I think
should be a color name without having to search a list to get it with a good
chance of successful parsing, and being confident that most people who see the
named color in an image will recognize it as the one I intended.

I'm already using the color list for "serious" work, and noted some benefit.
(Yellow was too light, but DARK_YELLOW seems to work well.)

~waggy


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From: robotguy
Subject: Re: xkcd colors
Date: 28 Jul 2010 13:55:01
Message: <web.4c506e323ccde340926a7e230@news.povray.org>
"waggy" <hon### [at] handbasketorg> wrote:

> Two things I like about the resulting list: being able to just type what I think
> should be a color name without having to search a list to get it with a good
> chance of successful parsing, and being confident that most people who see the
> named color in an image will recognize it as the one I intended.

When I saw the xkcd survey results, those two advantages were the first thing
that popped into my head.  It is certainly more comprehensive than colors.inc


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