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From: Ton
Subject: Re: TEE Edelweiss
Date: 29 Jan 2020 03:50:00
Message: <web.5e31470450afc79f804551e0@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Op 29/01/2020 om 01:31 schreef Ton:
> > And here is the whole train.
> >
>
> Well done sir!
>
> Just one question: The "joint" (what's its name?) between the two first
> wagons seems to be twice the size of the other ones. On purpose? Or just
> a matter of perspective?
>
> --
> Thomas

Thanks Thomas, they're called "inter wagon canvas". It's rubber, probably to
streamline the train. The first one, from the motorwagon, is 8.5 wide, the other
two are 4.5. It's a bit difficult to get a good complete overview, so
perspective is playing up a bit.

Cheers
Ton.


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: TEE Edelweiss
Date: 29 Jan 2020 06:35:30
Message: <5e316e02$1@news.povray.org>
Ton wrote on 29/01/2020 01:31:
> And here is the whole train.
> 
Very very good!
Paolo


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From: Alain Martel
Subject: Re: TEE Edelweiss
Date: 29 Jan 2020 11:39:15
Message: <5e31b533$1@news.povray.org>

> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> Op 29/01/2020 om 01:31 schreef Ton:
>>> And here is the whole train.
>>>
>>
>> Well done sir!
>>
>> Just one question: The "joint" (what's its name?) between the two first
>> wagons seems to be twice the size of the other ones. On purpose? Or just
>> a matter of perspective?
>>
>> --
>> Thomas
> 
> Thanks Thomas, they're called "inter wagon canvas". It's rubber, probably to
> streamline the train. The first one, from the motorwagon, is 8.5 wide, the other
> two are 4.5. It's a bit difficult to get a good complete overview, so
> perspective is playing up a bit.
> 
> Cheers
> Ton.
> 
> 
> 
Streamlining is a factor, but it's mostly to allow the passage from one 
wagon to another without being buffeted by the wind. A question of 
comfort and convenience for the passengers.


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From: jr
Subject: Re: TEE Edelweiss
Date: 30 Jan 2020 05:10:01
Message: <web.5e32ab2150afc79f28c55bc90@news.povray.org>
hi,

"Ton" <ton### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> > Op 29/01/2020 om 01:31 schreef Ton:
> > > And here is the whole train.
> > > ...
> It's a bit difficult to get a good complete overview, so
> perspective is playing up a bit.

"proper" modelling again, superb.  perspective?  just treat us to an animation
of it going past the camera!  :-)


regards, jr.


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From: Jörg "Yadgar" Bleimann
Subject: Re: TEE Edelweiss
Date: 31 Jan 2020 15:46:48
Message: <5e349238$1@news.povray.org>
Hi(gh)!

On 29.01.20 01:30, Ton wrote:
> It has been a while, but with Christmas and 2020 and a small holiday there was
> not much time for Povray.
> But the train is finished, now I have to put it somewhere, might be my next
> project.

What about putting the train in its genuine geographic environment? I'm 
currently re-coding Melody's smooth mesh generator to make it run at an 
acceptable speed (90 minutes rather than 200 days for 3601 by 3601 
vertices...), after that, I will start generating 1 square degree Earth 
surface slices (mesh2 terrain reliefs following Earth's curvature) from 
ASTER GeoTIFFs, so you might want to place railway tracks on it... on 
which line did the Edelweiss run?

Let's do POVEarth!

See you in Khyberspace (the Afghan section of POVEarth)!

Yadgar


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From: Ton
Subject: Re: TEE Edelweiss
Date: 1 Feb 2020 17:15:00
Message: <web.5e35f85850afc79f804551e0@news.povray.org>
=?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_=22Yadgar=22_Bleimann?= <yaz### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> Hi(gh)!
>
> On 29.01.20 01:30, Ton wrote:
> > It has been a while, but with Christmas and 2020 and a small holiday there was
> > not much time for Povray.
> > But the train is finished, now I have to put it somewhere, might be my next
> > project.
>
> What about putting the train in its genuine geographic environment? I'm
> currently re-coding Melody's smooth mesh generator to make it run at an
> acceptable speed (90 minutes rather than 200 days for 3601 by 3601
> vertices...), after that, I will start generating 1 square degree Earth
> surface slices (mesh2 terrain reliefs following Earth's curvature) from
> ASTER GeoTIFFs, so you might want to place railway tracks on it... on
> which line did the Edelweiss run?
>
> Let's do POVEarth!
>
> See you in Khyberspace (the Afghan section of POVEarth)!
>
> Yadgar

Hi Yadgar, interesting plan. I have at the moment something completely different
for my train in my mind.
Is your mesh2 detailed enough for this close?

Netherlands shouldn't be too difficult (flat!), but France and Switzerland open
some possibilities.

Cheers
Ton.


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: TEE Edelweiss
Date: 1 Feb 2020 18:05:00
Message: <web.5e36040e50afc79f4eec112d0@news.povray.org>
"Ton" <ton### [at] gmailcom> wrote:

> Is your mesh2 detailed enough for this close?

> Netherlands shouldn't be too difficult (flat!), but France and Switzerland open
> some possibilities.
>
> Cheers
> Ton.

That sounds to be maybe 25 miles on a side.
https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/8495/converting-longitude-and-latitude-coordinates-to-square-miles

or maybe it's 70:
https://sciencing.com/convert-degrees-latitude-miles-5744407.html

anyway, there's definitely enough detail in certain map areas to do just what
you need:

http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/thread/%3Cweb.5ce356f7d68a971b4eec112d0%40news.povray.org%3E/


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From: Dick Balaska
Subject: Re: TEE Edelweiss
Date: 1 Feb 2020 23:25:16
Message: <5e364f2c$1@news.povray.org>
Am 1/28/20 7:31 PM, also sprach Ton:
> And here is the whole train.
> 

It looks very nice.  Shouldn't it have some kind of catenary pantograph?
Weird that none of the pictures show any kind of top electrical 
connection.  Was it a diesel?

(Thanks.  I started looking at the TEE Edelweiss wikipedia page, and got 
rabbitholed into Gotthard Base Tunnel and other Rail2000 projects. :) )

-- 
dik
Rendered 49,882,521,600 of 49,882,521,600 pixels (100%)


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From: Jörg "Yadgar" Bleimann
Subject: Re: TEE Edelweiss
Date: 2 Feb 2020 05:12:38
Message: <5e36a096$1@news.povray.org>
Hi(gh)!

On 01.02.20 23:14, Ton wrote:

> Hi Yadgar, interesting plan. I have at the moment something completely different
> for my train in my mind.
What do you plan to do?

> Is your mesh2 detailed enough for this close?

3601 by 3601 data points per square degree result in about 30 metres per 
data point (at the equator and along meridians, otherwise less).


> Netherlands shouldn't be too difficult (flat!),

...but I'll have to block out the sea from flooding the many depressions 
by cutting prisms from the ocean globe!

  but France and Switzerland open
> some possibilities.

La Montanara for the camera lens, as I prefer to say...

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar

> 
> Cheers
> Ton.


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From: Ton
Subject: Re: TEE Edelweiss
Date: 6 Feb 2020 02:10:00
Message: <web.5e3bbba950afc79f804551e0@news.povray.org>
> > Hi Yadgar, interesting plan. I have at the moment something completely different
> > for my train in my mind.
> What do you plan to do?
I'll keep that a surprise. If it fails, or doesn't work out, I don't have to
apologize!

Maybe after I might have a look at some nice Alp-mountain or ridge.

Cheers
Ton.


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