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To Yadgar: I don't think I would like to sink this. Shame of my effort.
To Stephen: Well spotted. I am not too keen on doorknobs. I like doorhandles
better, so I took some artistic freedom.
Attached is my raised roof over the 1st class smoke room, in progress.
I need to make some windows, chimney 4 can be placed, and I need a couple of
vents.
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On 26/06/2018 11:42, Ton wrote:
> To Yadgar: I don't think I would like to sink this. Shame of my effort.
> To Stephen: Well spotted. I am not too . I like doorhandles
> better, so I took some artistic freedom.
>
I am not too keen on doorknobs either. And I can't argue with artistic
freedom.
> Attached is my raised roof over the 1st class smoke room, in progress.
> I need to make some windows, chimney 4 can be placed, and I need a couple of
> vents.
>
It is coming along. Don't forget that the access deck to the lift motor
room by a ladder wielded to the superstructure.
Incidentally, I have never heard a ship's funnel called a chimney. A
smokestack sometimes.
--
Regards
Stephen
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A chimney and a smokestack is the same word in Dutch, schoorsteen, so why does
English need two words for it?
Besides, I'm not a naval engineer, what do I know? I just like these old
Atlantic liners.
Here is an update. The fourth funnel still needs some work, but it is all coming
along nicely.
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On 02/07/2018 01:35, Ton wrote:
> A chimney and a smokestack is the same word in Dutch, schoorsteen,
If you ask me that is just laziness. ;-)
> so why does English need two words for it?
Four words if you count the Yorkshire and Scottish word "lum" along with
funnel.
I had a look and could not quickly find an answer. Mu guess is usage.
Smokestack tends to be used for industrial chimneys, chimney and lum
more domestic and funnel for ships and steam trains.
> Besides, I'm not a naval engineer, what do I know?
And you are writing in a foreign language.
I'm not either but I grew up in a shipbuilding area of Glasgow. So I
heard these terms at my mother's knee. ;-)
> I just like these old Atlantic liners.
If you ever get the chance. You must visit the Riverside Museum. There
are hundred of shipbuilder's models.
https://youtu.be/PJklMw9OXhk
> Here is an update. The fourth funnel still needs some work, but it is all coming
> along nicely.
>
It is indeed.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 2-7-2018 8:46, Stephen wrote:
> On 02/07/2018 01:35, Ton wrote:
>> A chimney and a smokestack is the same word in Dutch, schoorsteen,
>
> If you ask me that is just laziness. ;-)
"Gemetselde en beklede ondersteuning (schoor) van de rookvanger boven
een tegen de muur aangelegde stookplaats, de onderboezem voortzetting
van de schouw."
Which in English globally means 'a brickwork (= steen) support (=
schoor) for the chimney-flue above a fireplace laid out against a wall'.
I was suddenly interested in the etymology of the word, so that's why ;-)
By extension, the word was used for other usages like funnels. We Dutch
were smart enough not to need different words for different objects :-)
[ducks away, cackling]
>
>> so why does English need two words for it?
>
> Four words if you count the Yorkshire and Scottish word "lum" along with
> funnel.
> I had a look and could not quickly find an answer. Mu guess is usage.
> Smokestack tends to be used for industrial chimneys, chimney and lum
> more domestic and funnel for ships and steam trains.
>
>> Besides, I'm not a naval engineer, what do I know?
> And you are writing in a foreign language.
> I'm not either but I grew up in a shipbuilding area of Glasgow. So I
> heard these terms at my mother's knee. ;-)
>
>
>> I just like these old Atlantic liners.
>
> If you ever get the chance. You must visit the Riverside Museum. There
> are hundred of shipbuilder's models.
>
> https://youtu.be/PJklMw9OXhk
>
>> Here is an update. The fourth funnel still needs some work, but it is
>> all coming
>> along nicely.
>>
>
> It is indeed.
>
>
keep up the good work!
--
Thomas
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"Ton" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> A chimney and a smokestack is the same word in Dutch, schoorsteen, so why does
> English need two words for it?
To be specific.
Imagine being in a workshop and saying, "Hand me that tool...."
The first link I found with a reasonable sounding explanation / differentiation.
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/English/tech_engineering/225483-chimney_vs_stack.html
Another site mentioned that chimneys are small and/or residential, whereas
stacks are the gigantic industrial-sized things that look like round brick
skyscrapers.
When I was installing furnaces (wood, gas, oil), there was the stove pipe, which
was a single-walled tube that led to the actual chimney pipe - a double-walled
insulated pipe that kept the heat away from the structure as it passed out the
wall and up the outside, or through the floor/ceiling/roof depending on how it
was installed. I suppose that could then end up at the "stack" if there was an
old brick structure for that purpose. (It's New England)
Speaking of which:
I had occasion to look up the etymology of "Yankee" - and it's origins are
attributed to Dutch settlers. Perhaps more commentary on that could be taken up
in the O.T. section.
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Le 18-07-02 à 02:46, Stephen a écrit :
> On 02/07/2018 01:35, Ton wrote:
>> A chimney and a smokestack is the same word in Dutch, schoorsteen,
>
> If you ask me that is just laziness. ;-)
>
>> so why does English need two words for it?
>
> Four words if you count the Yorkshire and Scottish word "lum" along with
> funnel.
> I had a look and could not quickly find an answer. Mu guess is usage.
> Smokestack tends to be used for industrial chimneys, chimney and lum
> more domestic and funnel for ships and steam trains.
>
>> Besides, I'm not a naval engineer, what do I know?
> And you are writing in a foreign language.
> I'm not either but I grew up in a shipbuilding area of Glasgow. So I
> heard these terms at my mother's knee. ;-)
>
>
>> I just like these old Atlantic liners.
>
> If you ever get the chance. You must visit the Riverside Museum. There
> are hundred of shipbuilder's models.
>
> https://youtu.be/PJklMw9OXhk
>
>> Here is an update. The fourth funnel still needs some work, but it is
>> all coming
>> along nicely.
>>
>
> It is indeed.
>
>
«chimney» is an import from the French «cheminée» that got slightly
altered over time.
In French, it's also the term for smokestack and funnel.
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On 02/07/2018 13:50, Bald Eagle wrote:
> The first link I found with a reasonable sounding explanation / differentiation.
> https://www.proz.com/kudoz/English/tech_engineering/225483-chimney_vs_stack.html
I like that one.
Your Google fu is good. :-)
--
Regards
Stephen
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Well, you sure learn something interesting everyday here.
And now, back to Titanic, and the funnel 4.
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On 08/07/2018 09:28, Ton wrote:
> Well, you sure learn something interesting everyday here.
But most of us are so old we forget it next week. ;)
> And now, back to Titanic, and the funnel 4.
>
>
Nice viewpoint.
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Regards
Stephen
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