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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: secret passage WIP
Date: 8 Oct 2014 00:51:28
Message: <op.xneaf0jcufxv4h@xena.home>
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 00:46:53 +0200, s.day <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote:

> "Norbert Kern" <nor### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
>> - Grass is much too uniform. So you can use
>
> Thanks Norbert,
>
> That's exactly what I am after, some great suggestions in here, I have  
> seen
> these images before and I did think about trying a texture similar to  
> Jaime's
> when I started on the grass macro then for some reason did not implement  
> it (it
> is a really great grass texture). Also, your vegetation scenes are  
> always very
> impressive so plenty to think about/work on here.
>
>> like Avatar, Alice in wonderland, Oz or Maleficent. Here you need a  
>> darker
>> atmosphere (a moonlit meadow?), media fog and some glowing plants or  
>> insects
>
> Yes, I am stuck between a more fantasy type scene (not my normal) or a  
> realistic
> scene with an unexpected element in the staircase inside the tree. Not  
> sure
> which one will win yet but I will post the source code once completed.
>
> Thanks
>
> Sean
>

How about fireflies inside the trunk. Maybe one lone firefly outside near  
the camera moving towards the opening.


-- 
-Nekar Xenos-


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: secret passage WIP
Date: 8 Oct 2014 00:56:29
Message: <op.xneaobzbufxv4h@xena.home>
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 07:24:08 +0200, s.day <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote:

> I think I have been working on this image for too long, other than the  
> fact that
> in this version I have messed up the texture inside the tree so you  
> cannot
> really see the steps (there is a spiral staircase inside the trunk) I am  
> not too
> sure what else to do with it.
>
> As it stands I think this is a bit boring but I am not too sure what it  
> needs to
> make it more interesting so any suggestions would be welcome (am  
> thinking of
> trying a light/lamp inside the trunk. I did add a brightly coloured  
> mushroom
> outside next to the tree but it did not look great.
>
> The tree is made out of a blob, the grass is a macro using meshes and the
> dandelions are a macro using a mesh for the feathery part of the seed  
> then a
> blob for the rest.
>
> Sean
>
I love this scene.
I think the shadows are too soft to give definition to the stairway. I  
would suggest a strong yellowish light(almost sunset) so that only the  
first few steps are lit by the sun.

-Nekar Xenos-


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: secret passage WIP
Date: 8 Oct 2014 05:32:15
Message: <5435049f@news.povray.org>
s.day wrote on 07/10/2014 7.24:
> I think I have been working on this image for too long, other than the fact that
> in this version I have messed up the texture inside the tree so you cannot
> really see the steps (there is a spiral staircase inside the trunk) I am not too
> sure what else to do with it.
>
> As it stands I think this is a bit boring but I am not too sure what it needs to
> make it more interesting so any suggestions would be welcome (am thinking of
> trying a light/lamp inside the trunk. I did add a brightly coloured mushroom
> outside next to the tree but it did not look great.
>
> The tree is made out of a blob, the grass is a macro using meshes and the
> dandelions are a macro using a mesh for the feathery part of the seed then a
> blob for the rest.
>
> Sean
>
>
>
For a WIP is more than promising... I like a lot this grass!
;-)
Paolo


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From: s day
Subject: Re: secret passage WIP
Date: 8 Oct 2014 09:45:01
Message: <web.54353f283190b943b9cb1c270@news.povray.org>
William F Pokorny <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:

> I already like this image except for the obvious issue with the trunk
> opening. Well, maybe too, more curve to a few of the dandelion stems.
>

OK, now I am wondering what the obvious issue with the trunk opening is? I was
aiming for something simliar to:

http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/tree-trunk.jpg

> If heading for a more fanciful feeling, perhaps take the ripples on the
> pond and go for a windy day where the many dandelion seeds are in

> about on their single wing. Drifting spiders on threads, dragon flies,
> mosquitoes - bugs?
>
> Bill P.

Thanks for the ideas, will give them some thought (which means workout which
will be the easiest to model and do ;-)

Sean


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: secret passage WIP
Date: 8 Oct 2014 10:15:01
Message: <web.543546c53190b94385de7b680@news.povray.org>
"s.day" <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote:
> I think I have been working on this image for too long, other than the fact that
> in this version I have messed up the texture inside the tree so you cannot
> really see the steps (there is a spiral staircase inside the trunk) I am not too
> sure what else to do with it.

Like Thomas, I cannot see anything resembling a staircase.

> The tree is made out of a blob, the grass is a macro using meshes and the
> dandelions are a macro using a mesh for the feathery part of the seed then a
> blob for the rest.

There are no leaves on the dandelions--at least none that are visible.


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From: William F Pokorny
Subject: Re: secret passage WIP
Date: 8 Oct 2014 16:20:05
Message: <54359c75$1@news.povray.org>
On 10/08/2014 09:42 AM, s.day wrote:
> William F Pokorny <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>
>> I already like this image except for the obvious issue with the trunk
>> opening. Well, maybe too, more curve to a few of the dandelion stems.
>>
>
> OK, now I am wondering what the obvious issue with the trunk opening is? I was
> aiming for something simliar to:
>
> http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/tree-trunk.jpg
>

Of course, it is that the little dog is missing... ;-)

The obvious issue is me poorly choosing words. I wasn't trying to say 
any more than you and others have said about inside texture of the tree 
being off.

Bill P.


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: secret passage WIP
Date: 8 Oct 2014 16:45:01
Message: <web.5435a12c3190b9435e7df57c0@news.povray.org>
William F Pokorny <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:

> Of course, it is that the little dog is missing... ;-)

The little dog is _MISSING_?!
Send out the search party of Garden Gnomes!
Send word to the Pink Flamingoes!
Fire the Pollen alarm!
And for the love of all that is tiny and canine, set loose the Woodland Faeries!

{We're coming, Toto!}


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From: s day
Subject: Re: secret passage WIP
Date: 8 Oct 2014 18:15:00
Message: <web.5435b6e43190b943b9cb1c270@news.povray.org>
"Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 00:46:53 +0200, s.day <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote:
>
> How about fireflies inside the trunk. Maybe one lone firefly outside near
> the camera moving towards the opening.
>

If I were to do a darker version that would work but I am leaning more towards a
daylight image at the moment (still plenty of time to try out different
variations).

Thanks

Sean


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From: s day
Subject: Re: secret passage WIP
Date: 8 Oct 2014 18:25:01
Message: <web.5435b8923190b943b9cb1c270@news.povray.org>
Paolo Gibellini <p.g### [at] gmailcom> wrote:

> For a WIP is more than promising... I like a lot this grass!

Thanks, I will post the scene file when I am happy with it.

Sean


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From: s day
Subject: Re: secret passage WIP
Date: 8 Oct 2014 18:25:01
Message: <web.5435b9173190b943b9cb1c270@news.povray.org>
"Cousin Ricky" <rickysttATyahooDOTcom> wrote:
>
> There are no leaves on the dandelions--at least none that are visible.

Correct, I looked at several photos and in many cases (especially in long grass)
you cannot see the leaves so I opted for the easy approach of not adding them at
this point. I am thinking of revisiting this though and adding them plus some
flowering ones before they have gone to seed also.

Sean


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