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From: jhu
Subject: My new fan
Date: 13 May 2014 20:05:01
Message: <web.5372b2b9df7e6825d19b0ec40@news.povray.org>
It's a Braun fan. Modeled mostly in Blender. The stand was also modeled in
Blender, but when I added a transparent color, rendering times became too long
(as in stuck at 0% for > 24 hours). So I remade the stand in Povray SDL instead.
Now render time is about 5 minutes. What is it about transparent meshes that
causes rendering times to slow down so much?


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From: jhu
Subject: Re: My new fan
Date: 13 May 2014 20:20:01
Message: <web.5372b5b340744e5bd19b0ec40@news.povray.org>
I suppose I should add an image...


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From: And
Subject: Re: My new fan
Date: 14 May 2014 13:45:00
Message: <web.5373aa6340744e5bea0f311c0@news.povray.org>
"jhu" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> It's a Braun fan. Modeled mostly in Blender. The stand was also modeled in
> Blender, but when I added a transparent color, rendering times became too long
> (as in stuck at 0% for > 24 hours).

0% for 24 hours? I suppose that only pov-ray has this behavior. Because I often
notice that it rendered CSG slower than mesh.


> So I remade the stand in Povray SDL instead.
> Now render time is about 5 minutes. What is it about transparent meshes that
> causes rendering times to slow down so much?


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: My new fan
Date: 14 May 2014 17:05:25
Message: <5373da95@news.povray.org>

> It's a Braun fan. Modeled mostly in Blender. The stand was also modeled in
> Blender, but when I added a transparent color, rendering times became too long
> (as in stuck at 0% for > 24 hours). So I remade the stand in Povray SDL instead.
> Now render time is about 5 minutes. What is it about transparent meshes that
> causes rendering times to slow down so much?
>
>
>

Tranparency in mesh should not cause such a slowdown. Maybe there was 
LOTS of triangles located inside the mesh, hiden by it's opacity...
Try placing that problematic mesh in a merge to see if the slowdown 
still occurs.


Alain


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From: jhu
Subject: Re: My new fan
Date: 14 May 2014 18:20:01
Message: <web.5373eaff40744e5bd19b0ec40@news.povray.org>
Alain <kua### [at] videotronca> wrote:

> > It's a Braun fan. Modeled mostly in Blender. The stand was also modeled in
> > Blender, but when I added a transparent color, rendering times became too long
> > (as in stuck at 0% for > 24 hours). So I remade the stand in Povray SDL instead.
> > Now render time is about 5 minutes. What is it about transparent meshes that
> > causes rendering times to slow down so much?
> >
> >
> >
>
> Tranparency in mesh should not cause such a slowdown. Maybe there was
> LOTS of triangles located inside the mesh, hiden by it's opacity...
> Try placing that problematic mesh in a merge to see if the slowdown
> still occurs.
>
>
> Alain

Just made a merge. Same problem: rendering remains stuck.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: My new fan
Date: 15 May 2014 03:21:02
Message: <53746ade$1@news.povray.org>
On 14-5-2014 2:03, jhu wrote:
> What is it about transparent meshes that
> causes rendering times to slow down so much?

That's bizarre to say the least. Could you post that mesh so that we can 
have a look at it? I cannot imagine it being slower than csg.

Thomas


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From: jhu
Subject: Re: My new fan
Date: 15 May 2014 10:20:01
Message: <web.5374ccf540744e5bd19b0ec40@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> On 14-5-2014 2:03, jhu wrote:
> > What is it about transparent meshes that
> > causes rendering times to slow down so much?
>
> That's bizarre to say the least. Could you post that mesh so that we can
> have a look at it? I cannot imagine it being slower than csg.
>
> Thomas

First, I'll post an image with better lighting.


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From: jhu
Subject: Re: My new fan
Date: 15 May 2014 11:05:04
Message: <web.5374d70b40744e5bd19b0ec40@news.povray.org>
Posted the scene file in misc. Although, now that I examine the blender file, it
does look like I have several of the transparent pieces within each other. I'll
see if I can separate those and report back.


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From: jhu
Subject: Re: My new fan
Date: 15 May 2014 11:35:00
Message: <web.5374dd9140744e5bd19b0ec40@news.povray.org>
"jhu" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Posted the scene file in misc. Although, now that I examine the blender file, it
> does look like I have several of the transparent pieces within each other. I'll
> see if I can separate those and report back.

Aha! Edited the blender file so entities aren't inside each other for the
transparent parts. Now the scene renders to completion!


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: My new fan
Date: 16 May 2014 03:08:10
Message: <5375b95a@news.povray.org>
On 15-5-2014 17:30, jhu wrote:
> Aha! Edited the blender file so entities aren't inside each other for the
> transparent parts. Now the scene renders to completion!
>

Yeah, that can make a huge difference indeed.

Thomas


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