Hi,

Made a few changes to the layout of this scene as I was not happy with the
composition of the previous one.

Still planning on adding a few more shells on the ground and some seaweed (the
latter is causing me problems though).

Also may change the big stone on the left at the front and not too sure about
the barnacles (they look a bit like a flock of seaguls have left a deposit on
the rocks.)

Sean

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On 2-2-2014 10:06, s.day wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Made a few changes to the layout of this scene as I was not happy with the
> composition of the previous one.
>
> Still planning on adding a few more shells on the ground and some seaweed (the
> latter is causing me problems though).
>
> Also may change the big stone on the left at the front and not too sure about
> the barnacles (they look a bit like a flock of seaguls have left a deposit on
> the rocks.)
>

Wow! This is almost photographic. I think the barnacles are looking 
good. The stone to the left looks suspiciously like an eroded fossil 
seastar... ;-)

Thomas

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On 02/02/2014 07:08 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 2-2-2014 10:06, s.day wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Made a few changes to the layout of this scene as I was not happy with
>> the
>> composition of the previous one.
>>
>> Still planning on adding a few more shells on the ground and some
>> seaweed (the
>> latter is causing me problems though).
>>
>> Also may change the big stone on the left at the front and not too
>> sure about
>> the barnacles (they look a bit like a flock of seaguls have left a
>> deposit on
>> the rocks.)
>>
>
> Wow! This is almost photographic.

agreed ... nice job with the lighting

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"s.day" <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote:

>
>(the latter is causing me problems though).
>

Why? Star created, and seaweed you can't?
I liked the picture.

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James Holsenback wrote:
> On 02/02/2014 07:08 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Wow! This is almost photographic.
>
> agreed ... nice job with the lighting
>

Thanks James/Thomas, still have a few tweaks to make, considering most 
of the scene is isosurface based it does not take too long to render either.

Sean

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LanuHum wrote:
> "s.day" <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote:
>
>>
>> (the latter is causing me problems though).
>>
>
> Why? Star created, and seaweed you can't?
> I liked the picture.
>
>
>
>

Thanks, I am trying to write a macro to create the seaweed, everything 
in the scene is made with the Povray SDL so no external modellers. The 
starfish and limpets/barnacles are blobs, everything else is made from 
isosurfaces (except the water which is a box).

So far all my attempts at seaweed have not looked so good.

Sean

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Sean Day <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote:
> LanuHum wrote:
> > "s.day" <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> (the latter is causing me problems though).
> >>
> >
> > Why? Star created, and seaweed you can't?
> > I liked the picture.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Thanks, I am trying to write a macro to create the seaweed, everything
> in the scene is made with the Povray SDL so no external modellers. The
> starfish and limpets/barnacles are blobs, everything else is made from
> isosurfaces (except the water which is a box).
>
> So far all my attempts at seaweed have not looked so good.
>
> Sean

First: the image is wonderful, really wonderful. But I wonder a bit about the
seaweed. The scene must be at a beach. Is there seaweed so close to the beach?
My last visits to a beach is years ago and there is not much seaweed between the
mainland and the islands at East Frisia, where my sister lives. From experiences
long ago I ever had the impression that seaweed grows only in deeper areas
covered by water independend of the tides. But I may be wrong with that. My next
experience with beaches will be during my holydays this summer, but after the
contest, at a place called Mevagissey. I propose that you take a look at an
other very beautiful beach scene published within the irtc June 2005 titled
"wreck" by an author you should know.

Best regards,
Michael

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> Sean Day <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote:
>> LanuHum wrote:
>>> "s.day" <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> (the latter is causing me problems though).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why? Star created, and seaweed you can't?
>>> I liked the picture.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, I am trying to write a macro to create the seaweed, everything
>> in the scene is made with the Povray SDL so no external modellers. The
>> starfish and limpets/barnacles are blobs, everything else is made from
>> isosurfaces (except the water which is a box).
>>
>> So far all my attempts at seaweed have not looked so good.
>>
>> Sean
>
> First: the image is wonderful, really wonderful. But I wonder a bit about the
> seaweed. The scene must be at a beach. Is there seaweed so close to the beach?
> My last visits to a beach is years ago and there is not much seaweed between the
> mainland and the islands at East Frisia, where my sister lives. From experiences
> long ago I ever had the impression that seaweed grows only in deeper areas
> covered by water independend of the tides. But I may be wrong with that. My next
> experience with beaches will be during my holydays this summer, but after the
> contest, at a place called Mevagissey. I propose that you take a look at an
> other very beautiful beach scene published within the irtc June 2005 titled
> "wreck" by an author you should know.
>
> Best regards,
> Michael
>
>

Sea weeds grow in relatively shallow water and is often exposed during 
low tides. They are realy large algaes.
It also tend to grow on large rocky formations, especialy in areas 
affected by the tides. I remember a low tide rocky "island" that was 
totaly covered by a thick blanket of sea weeds. The only way of walking 
in it was bare foot. Otherwise, it was just to slippery.
In deeper water where tides are not a factor and with low currents, it 
may grow on softer surfaces like sand or mud.

Here, we have mostly sand with several, relatively small, rocks. It's 
not a place that sea weeds like, you'd mostly see sea weeds fragments 
floating in the water, if any.

In fresh water, you have submarine plants that roots in sand, mud and 
clay, but those are not sea weeds. Those plants will quickly die in sea 
water.
The two are often confounded. In fresh water, algaes are microscopic, 
often unicellular, plants.



Alain

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"MichaelJF" <mi-### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
> First: the image is wonderful, really wonderful. But I wonder a bit about the
> seaweed. The scene must be at a beach. Is there seaweed so close to the beach?
> My last visits to a beach is years ago and there is not much seaweed between the
> mainland and the islands at East Frisia, where my sister lives. From experiences
> long ago I ever had the impression that seaweed grows only in deeper areas
> covered by water independend of the tides. But I may be wrong with that. My next
> experience with beaches will be during my holydays this summer, but after the
> contest, at a place called Mevagissey. I propose that you take a look at an
> other very beautiful beach scene published within the irtc June 2005 titled
> "wreck" by an author you should know.

In the Virgin Islands, there is plenty of seaweed on some of the beaches,
growing in tidal areas (or on rocks, as Alain mentioned) or washed up on the
beach.

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On 02/02/2014 8:04 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> In the Virgin Islands, there is plenty of seaweed on some of the beaches,
> growing in tidal areas (or on rocks, as Alain mentioned) or washed up on the
> beach.

That goes for the British Isles as well.

-- 
Regards
     Stephen

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