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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Havasu Falls
Date: 25 Sep 2008 22:40:00
Message: <web.48dc4a4ee22c498e7d1d789a0@news.povray.org>
water spectral absorption

 High concentrations of dissolved lime make the water of Havasu Falls appear
turquoise.

link:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Color-of-water


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From: jute
Subject: Re: Havasu Falls
Date: 26 Sep 2008 04:15:00
Message: <web.48dc99f4819d0701f43b014e0@news.povray.org>
"alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:
> water spectral absorption
>
>  High concentrations of dissolved lime make the water of Havasu Falls appear
> turquoise.
>
> link:
> http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Color-of-water

And http://www.photoseek.com/99SW-07-33-Havasu-Falls.jpg

Interestingly, your image looked like rendered to me, and still does.
Supremely well rendered, mind you, but it's not a photograph if you ask me.


--
jussi


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Havasu Falls
Date: 27 Sep 2008 00:20:00
Message: <web.48ddb05b819d070185de7b680@news.povray.org>
"alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:
>  High concentrations of dissolved lime make the water of Havasu Falls appear
> turquoise.

Low concentrations of almost every known substance make the water around my home
appear turquoise.

link:
http://images.google.co.vi/images?hl=en&q=%22st+thomas%22+beach&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2

(Note, if you're thinking that the water at Lindqvist Beach can't possibly be
that color, you're right.  That color balance is just *wrong*.

Satellite photo of Lindqvist Beach:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=18.341532,-64.858303&spn=0.011141,0.015063&t=h&z=16

Unfortunately, it was a cloudy day.)

The turquoise does not come from the dissolved lime; it comes from the water
itself.  Shallow waters usually don't appear turquoise because of impurities
such as tannins, algae, other organic matter, and sand.  But clear water as
shallow as 2 feet takes on a noticeable turquoise cast.  I can't find the
Havasu Falls illustration, but my guess is that the lime enhances the existing
turquoise color by scattering the light.

The waters around my home are clear because they are scrubbed clean of ocean
nutrients by the coral.  There is no organic matter to interfere with the true
color of the water.  There is significant contamination by dissolved halite
(sodium chloride) at 35 grams per liter, but so far, I've seen nothing about
what effect this has on water's optical properties.

Deep water is indigo colored because more of the green light is absorbed,
leaving just the blue and violet wavelengths.


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: Havasu Falls
Date: 29 Sep 2008 07:20:00
Message: <web.48e0b9b4819d070178dcad930@news.povray.org>
"alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:
> water spectral absorption
>
>  High concentrations of dissolved lime make the water of Havasu Falls appear
> turquoise.
>

Beautiful image, with great colors and composition.  I like yours better than
the real photo!

Ken W.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Havasu Falls
Date: 1 Oct 2008 00:22:21
Message: <48e2fafd$1@news.povray.org>
Kenneth wrote:
> "alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:
>> water spectral absorption
>>
>>  High concentrations of dissolved lime make the water of Havasu Falls appear
>> turquoise.
>>
> 
> Beautiful image, with great colors and composition.  I like yours better than
> the real photo!

It's not a render.


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: Havasu Falls
Date: 1 Oct 2008 06:30:01
Message: <web.48e35039819d070178dcad930@news.povray.org>
nemesis <nam### [at] nospamgmailcom> wrote:
> Kenneth wrote:

> > Beautiful image, with great colors and composition.  I like yours better than
> > the real photo!
>
> It's not a render.

That's interesting.

Images that are posted here are *usually* renders. It would be nice if people
who uploaded PHOTOS (someone else's copyrighted photo at that) would make that
clear--which alphaQuad didn't bother to do, other than giving links to other
sites--which I may or may not take the time to visit. (I'm not knocking you,
you're message is appreciated.) I suppose from now on, my first question when
posting a comment will be, "So, is that a render?" A question I shouldn't have
to ask here.

Ken W.


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Havasu Falls
Date: 1 Oct 2008 09:25:00
Message: <web.48e378e0819d070185de7b680@news.povray.org>
nemesis <nam### [at] nospamgmailcom> wrote:
> It's not a render.

Really?





Darn.


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Havasu Falls
Date: 2 Oct 2008 00:55:00
Message: <web.48e4533a819d0701a14dea170@news.povray.org>
"Cousin Ricky" <ric### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> nemesis <nam### [at] nospamgmailcom> wrote:
> > It's not a render.
>
> Really?
>
>
>
>
>
> Darn.

You can please half the people some of the time and some of the people half the
time ... how does that go? OMG. Whatever Bush has, its contagious. Help me I'm
melting, oh, what a world, what a world.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Havasu Falls
Date: 3 Oct 2008 16:31:29
Message: <48e68121@news.povray.org>
Kenneth escreveu:
> nemesis <nam### [at] nospamgmailcom> wrote:
>> Kenneth wrote:
> 
>>> Beautiful image, with great colors and composition.  I like yours better than
>>> the real photo!
>> It's not a render.
> 
> That's interesting.
> 
> Images that are posted here are *usually* renders. It would be nice if people
> who uploaded PHOTOS (someone else's copyrighted photo at that) would make that
> clear--which alphaQuad didn't bother to do, other than giving links to other
> sites--which I may or may not take the time to visit. (I'm not knocking you,
> you're message is appreciated.) I suppose from now on, my first question when
> posting a comment will be, "So, is that a render?" A question I shouldn't have
> to ask here.

In the case of alphaQuad posts, it's just a matter at actually looking a 
few of his actual renders.  Lately, he's been posting flowers and nature 
photos, which at least are beautiful.  Better than some of his stream of 
counciousness trips...


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From: DLM
Subject: Re: Havasu Falls
Date: 14 Oct 2008 21:27:05
Message: <48f546e9$1@news.povray.org>
Beautiful work moondigger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Havasu_Falls_2_md.jpg

This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 2.5 
License. In short: you are free to share and make derivative works of the 
file under the conditions that you appropriately attribute it, and that you 
distribute it only under a license identical to this one.

See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Moondigger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turquoise_(color)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_of_water
etc


"alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message 
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> water spectral absorption
>
> High concentrations of dissolved lime make the water of Havasu Falls 
> appear
> turquoise.
>
> link:
> http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Color-of-water
>
>
>


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