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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Double planetoid again again
Date: 6 Mar 2008 06:40:01
Message: <web.47cfd76972bcc4eb731f01d10@news.povray.org>
Having vastly improved my tetrahedral boulder, I've gone back to the whole
double planetoid again. Since my main motivation for tinkering was to speed up
the rendering (which succeeded completely), I rendered the whole scene at 3000
x 3000. It finished late last night, taking almost 115 hours on a single-core
2.4GHz AMD with the 64-bit linux POV-Ray 3.6.1.

There are some problems, mostly invisible on the 1200 x 1200 version shown here;
there are radiosity artifacts around some of the doorways and some of the
foliage is sticking through the buildings. This should be simple to correct,
which, technically, makes even this epic version a test render...

Since I'm still tinkering, comments are welcome! ;-)

Bill


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Double planetoid again again
Date: 6 Mar 2008 06:57:53
Message: <47cfdc41@news.povray.org>
Cool!


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-Nekar Xenos-


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Double planetoid again again
Date: 6 Mar 2008 07:55:33
Message: <47cfe9c5$1@news.povray.org>
"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> schreef in bericht 
news:web.47cfd76972bcc4eb731f01d10@news.povray.org...
>
> Since I'm still tinkering, comments are welcome! ;-)
>
Yes, I suppose this is a vast improvement indeed (render time I mean). The 
planetoid looks very well. If I remember correctly, there is no 
possibilities of communication between the human and the natural space, is 
there? If so, I am not too bothered by the vegetation growing inside those 
apparent gateways, otherwise that might be a bit distracting.

Thomas


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Double planetoid again again
Date: 7 Mar 2008 08:10:00
Message: <web.47d13d8481b0d19d731f01d10@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
> Yes, I suppose this is a vast improvement indeed (render time I mean). The
> planetoid looks very well. If I remember correctly, there is no
> possibilities of communication between the human and the natural space,

Well, I think that might have been mentioned by Escher of the original image,
but that's not how I see it. I'm going for the 'buildings on a rock' reality
(with a modified version of gravity...:-)).

> If so, I am not too bothered by the vegetation growing inside those
> apparent gateways, otherwise that might be a bit distracting.

That wasn't the problem actually; some foliage appears only on walls because the
bushes are at an angle and the base is inside the wall. This is one of the
things I'm going to change. Other changes: a dirty texture for the walls,
tweaked radiosity and an area_light. I did a quick test with a 5x5 area light
last night and it trebled the render time :-(

Oh well, shouldn't grumble, I did buy that linux box solely to put it in the
spare room and leave it rendering for weeks on end...


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Double planetoid again again
Date: 7 Mar 2008 10:38:59
Message: <47d16193$1@news.povray.org>
"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> schreef in bericht 
news:web.47d13d8481b0d19d731f01d10@news.povray.org...
> "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
>> If so, I am not too bothered by the vegetation growing inside those
>> apparent gateways, otherwise that might be a bit distracting.
>
> That wasn't the problem actually; some foliage appears only on walls 
> because the
> bushes are at an angle and the base is inside the wall. This is one of the
> things I'm going to change.
Yes, but what I point at are the rectangular gateways at the base of the 
towers on the planetoid. If they provide access to the rock, the entrances 
should be clear of vegetation, don't you think so?

>
> Oh well, shouldn't grumble, I did buy that linux box solely to put it in 
> the
> spare room and leave it rendering for weeks on end...
Oh yes, but it is testing patience too :-)

Thomas


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Double planetoid again again
Date: 7 Mar 2008 23:47:39
Message: <47d21a6b@news.povray.org>
Well, I am not yet fully convinced by your asteroids. But I am convinced by 
your ability to design interesting art deco house styles. When looking to 
the housing construction, well, it is a design which is simple, basic, and 
still amazing.

That design applied to a large villa at some beach, wow - that should look 
just fine!



"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:web.47cfd76972bcc4eb731f01d10@news.povray.org...
> Having vastly improved my tetrahedral boulder, I've gone back to the whole
> double planetoid again. Since my main motivation for tinkering was to 
> speed up
> the rendering (which succeeded completely), I rendered the whole scene at 
> 3000
> x 3000. It finished late last night, taking almost 115 hours on a 
> single-core
> 2.4GHz AMD with the 64-bit linux POV-Ray 3.6.1.
>
> There are some problems, mostly invisible on the 1200 x 1200 version shown 
> here;
> there are radiosity artifacts around some of the doorways and some of the
> foliage is sticking through the buildings. This should be simple to 
> correct,
> which, technically, makes even this epic version a test render...
>
> Since I'm still tinkering, comments are welcome! ;-)
>
> Bill
>


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From: Jan Dvorak
Subject: Re: Double planetoid again again
Date: 8 Mar 2008 00:41:16
Message: <47d226fc$1@news.povray.org>
Sven Littkowski napsal(a):
> Well, I am not yet fully convinced by your asteroids. But I am convinced by 
> your ability to design interesting art deco house styles. When looking to 
> the housing construction, well, it is a design which is simple, basic, and 
> still amazing.
> 
> That design applied to a large villa at some beach, wow - that should look 
> just fine!
> 
I was imagining a medieval fortress or maybe a prison.
-- 
You know you've been raytracing too long when...
you ever saw a beautiful scenerey and regretted not to take your 6" 
reflective ball and a digital camera, thinking "this would have been a 
perfect light probe"
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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Double planetoid again again
Date: 10 Mar 2008 09:45:00
Message: <web.47d5483f81b0d19d731f01d10@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
> Yes, but what I point at are the rectangular gateways at the base of the
> towers on the planetoid. If they provide access to the rock, the entrances
> should be clear of vegetation, don't you think so?

Ah, I see what you mean. That's interesting because I hadn't intended these
features as gateways, and I never noticed that they resemble such! I'm not sure
if you can make out the balcony to the right of the image, you can see that
there's just a plain wall underneath rather than a dark entrance...?

> > Oh well, shouldn't grumble, I did buy that linux box solely to put it in
> > the
> > spare room and leave it rendering for weeks on end...
> Oh yes, but it is testing patience too :-)

Definitely... :-)


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Double planetoid again again
Date: 10 Mar 2008 09:45:01
Message: <web.47d5491f81b0d19d731f01d10@news.povray.org>
"Sven Littkowski" <sven [] jamaica-focus [] com> wrote:
> Well, I am not yet fully convinced by your asteroids.

What do you find unconvincing - the rock geometry/texture, or the tetrahedral
shape? In the latter case I am constrained by the concept but I am not 100%
happy with the rock appearance myself. The problem is trading off realism with
render time...

> But I am convinced by
> your ability to design interesting art deco house styles. When looking to
> the housing construction, well, it is a design which is simple, basic, and
> still amazing.

Thanks! The simplicity is also necessitated by the concept - normal
building-dressing would be difficult for the varying 'up' direction.

Bill


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Double planetoid again again
Date: 10 Mar 2008 09:50:00
Message: <web.47d5496f81b0d19d731f01d10@news.povray.org>
Jan Dvorak <jan### [at] centrumcz> wrote:
> Sven Littkowski napsal(a):
> > Well, I am not yet fully convinced by your asteroids. But I am convinced by
> > your ability to design interesting art deco house styles. When looking to
> > the housing construction, well, it is a design which is simple, basic, and
> > still amazing.
> >
> > That design applied to a large villa at some beach, wow - that should look
> > just fine!
> >
> I was imagining a medieval fortress or maybe a prison.

A fortress-type look was what I had in mind, although not medieval because I'd
need to crenellate the walls!

Bill


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