"stm31415" <sam### [at] cscom> wrote:
> Brilliant. I love it. The concept is great, the excecution is great. Really
> good.
>
> -s
> 5TF!

Thank you !

Rene
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Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> I am aware of course that Hockney did pools, but the Paper Pools hadn't
> really gotten my attention.  I see that his process involved taking
> polaroid shots of pools.
>

my Hockney project is based on polaroid shots he took before starting his
work, but I've digressed as always. For example, Hockney never photograph
the pool in the rain. And also, I replace his friend by a crocodile because
I found interesting and funny to play with the double meaning of 'caustics'
word.
The Paper Pools was an interesting work because Hockney used a special
technique for the paintings. In fact, the paintings
are made of pressed paper pulp impregnated with coulour, sorry, color... (I
don't know exactly how you say that in english, in french it is : 'papier
teinte dans la masse'). So, there is something ironic with the water idea.


> Is your wife's concept just for cg or does it have a broader application?
One day, my wife had had the opportunity to show her work in a collective
polaroid art exhibition in UK, but she didn't have polaroid camera (SX70)
at hand. Sure, it was more easy to go to the shop around the corner and buy
one, but she thought that should be more exciting to made a kind of
Polaroid simulacrum. She printed herself a series of old photographs and
then mounted them in pseudo polaroid frames she made. Yes, it was pretty
conceptualist...
http://www.polarama.com/pascalebaud.a/pascalea.htm
http://www.polarama.com/
http://baudandbui.free.fr/pb_works/polars/polar.htm

I think 'Faux-Polaroids' are just an artistic concept which have certainly
something to do with falsification and copy tradition in history of art.




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Shay <dd### [at] dddd> wrote:
> Rene Bui wrote:
>
> Excellent. The picture itself is without post-processing?
>
>   -Shay

Thanks!
yes it is, only frame is post-processing.

Rene
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"s.day" <s.d### [at] uelacuk> wrote:
> Amazing!! I would like to see the image before being post-processed as well.
> This is fantastic for POV or is it just the frame that is post-processed? I
> can't believe you call this WIP looks finished to me. The lighting is very
> realistic is it HDRI?
>
> Sean

Thanks!
simply cut off the frame and you'll get the image before being
post-processed !
no hdri and no light, just ambient light, white/grey sphere and radiosity.
but maybe I have to work on diving board, I don't know... maybe some
scattering effects with media (?) I really don't know...

Rene
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"Rene Bui" <ren### [at] freefr> schreef in bericht
news:web.42d7ec1fcdcb65bd2994edf40@news.povray.org...
> ....but just an image from a series of 'faux-polaroids' (a concept
invented
> by my wife).
> This project is about David Hockney's Paper Pools made in 1978 near NY.
> very very wip.
>
> polaroid frame post-processed in photoshop.
>
> Rene
> http://rene.bui.free.fr - online portfolio
>
Brilliant image and brilliant concept!

Thomas

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Hurrah. Endly a quiite realistic image respecting what Mies Van der Rohe 
said: "less is more"

Fiendly



web.42d7ec1fcdcb65bd2994edf40@news.povray.org...
> ....but just an image from a series of 'faux-polaroids' (a concept 
> invented
> by my wife).
> This project is about David Hockney's Paper Pools made in 1978 near NY.
> very very wip.
>
> polaroid frame post-processed in photoshop.
>
> Rene
> http://rene.bui.free.fr - online portfolio
>


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Paper pools, eh? Never heard of it, nor this Hockney fellow. So I searched 
and found a place with a book by a Ken Tyler--
http://www.nga.gov.au/InternationalPrints/Tyler/Detail.cfm?IRN=62448&BioArtistIRN=14120&MnuID=SRCH
 --probably not the same person we know around these POV-Ray newsgroups. It 
looks interesting. Just not as good as this rendering by you Rene, IMHO.

I like the muted tone, too, as someone else said already and the way it 
draws attention to the deep water. Leaving only a fraction of the poolside 
visible works really good. The wet diving board makes it great.

Some criticisms I have would be that the water is darker than most any pool 
I've ever seen, looks like a lake; and the water surface might be too 
disturbed, as if by a non-directional wind, not by rain drops. Concentric 
ripples of random size covering the surface could be better suited to this 
picture. Yet it still seems okay as it is now, but I think that's because I 
see it as a surreal scene and so a lake merged into a swimming pool fits 
nicely this way. I realize you said WIP, anyway, and it might be changed 
somehow later.

I'm not exactly sure what is meant by faux polaroids even after checking 
into it by searching the internet. I thought maybe it might be about 
manipulating the chemical emulsion layer by pressing on it, pushing it 
around. I had heard of that years ago.

Bob Hughes

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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote:
> Brilliant image and brilliant concept!
>
> Thomas

Thanks

Rene
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"Remy Closset" <rem### [at] tiscalifr> wrote:
> Hurrah. Endly a quiite realistic image respecting what Mies Van der Rohe
> said: "less is more"
>
> Fiendly


do you know this old story about Rohe ?
It was happened maybe in the 30's,  I don't remember exactly. Rohe was
invited by the French government as one of the masters of Modern
architecture. And of course there was a very pompous ceremonial with many
official personalities in the Beaux-Arts school of Paris, and I don't know
for what reason, but Rohe was late and all people lost patience. Suddenly,
the headmaster of Beaux-Arts, a man with an academic mentality and a bit
has been, said : "miss, miss...   where is she that miss ??" ...

haha, everytime I heard about Rohe, I recall this funny story ! :-D
thanks for your comment.


Rene
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"Bob Hughes" <bob### [at] charternet> wrote:
> Paper pools, eh? Never heard of it, nor this Hockney fellow. So I searched
> and found a place with a book by a Ken Tyler--
>
http://www.nga.gov.au/InternationalPrints/Tyler/Detail.cfm?IRN=62448&BioArtistIRN=14120&MnuID=SRCH

Oh yes, Kenneth Tyler is an art printer, he is the person who introduce
Hockney to this particular technique and he worked closely on the Paper
Pools with Hockney.



> I'm not exactly sure what is meant by faux polaroids even after checking
> into it by searching the internet. I thought maybe it might be about
> manipulating the chemical emulsion layer by pressing on it, pushing it
> around. I had heard of that years ago.
>
> Bob Hughes

Some polaroid artists in the past did these emulsion layer manipulations,
yes I even remember someones who put their photographs into refrigerator
for a night !

Faux polaroids are nothing else than polaroid shots made without polaroid
camera...

Thanks for your crits and compliments.



Rene
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