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From: Tim McMurdo
Subject: US Brig Niagara WIP (215k)
Date: 31 Mar 2005 18:35:01
Message: <web.424c883214078f196e93bf990@news.povray.org>
The rigging macro changes I made are really speeding things up now. I think
I will add one more feature. I think I need to add the ability to undefine
all of the variables and reset their values to the default values at the
end of the macro.


As far as this image, I think as allways, the textures need improvement.
Please excuse the low radiosity settings.

I think I would trip over all these ropes.

Tim


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From: Bill Hails
Subject: Re: US Brig Niagara WIP (215k)
Date: 1 Apr 2005 18:30:49
Message: <424dd9a9@news.povray.org>
Tim McMurdo wrote:

> The rigging macro changes I made are really speeding things up now. I
> think I will add one more feature. I think I need to add the ability to
> undefine all of the variables and reset their values to the default values
> at the end of the macro.
> 

I'm not an expert, but It appears to be the case that all macro arguments
are call-by-reference (it would make sense for large complex arguments)
so you need to ensure that all of the arguments are not lvalues
(couldn't appear on the left hand side of an '=' assignment)
so if you do things like
MyMacro(INTEGER_VALUE + 0, transform { MyTransform }, object { MyObject })
rather than just
MyMacro(INTEGER_VALUE, MyTransform, MyObject)
then copies are taken and the arguments aren't directly assigned to.

I reserve the right to be wrong, so someone may correct me.

> As far as this image, I think as allways, the textures need improvement.
> Please excuse the low radiosity settings.
> 
> I think I would trip over all these ropes.
> 
> Tim

I greatly admire your enormous persistance with this project, and it looks
fantastic, I just hope you back up your code :-)

-- 
Bill Hails
http://thyme.homelinux.net/


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From: Tim McMurdo
Subject: Re: US Brig Niagara WIP (215k)
Date: 3 Apr 2005 09:50:00
Message: <web.424ff3ada0f6aca4d1d82a9d0@news.povray.org>
Bill Hails <bil### [at] europeyahoo-inccom> wrote:
> Tim McMurdo wrote:
>
> > The rigging macro changes I made are really speeding things up now. I
> > think I will add one more feature. I think I need to add the ability to
> > undefine all of the variables and reset their values to the default values
> > at the end of the macro.
> >
>
> I'm not an expert, but It appears to be the case that all macro arguments
> are call-by-reference (it would make sense for large complex arguments)
> so you need to ensure that all of the arguments are not lvalues
> (couldn't appear on the left hand side of an '=' assignment)
> so if you do things like
> MyMacro(INTEGER_VALUE + 0, transform { MyTransform }, object { MyObject })
> rather than just
> MyMacro(INTEGER_VALUE, MyTransform, MyObject)
> then copies are taken and the arguments aren't directly assigned to.
>
> I reserve the right to be wrong, so someone may correct me.
>

Bill,

Thank you for these comments. I am unfortunately a self taught programmer
and I fear I have many bad habits. This sounds like good advice from you
and if correct would solve problems I have had with my code in the past.

I often use the opportunity to study the sample code shared in other peoples
scene files. Some times I struggle with the complexity of some code, but
find that I learn best by example. I hafve often thought that there should
be an area in the news group set aside for questions on encouraging good
SDL programming habits. Where theory and exaples could be shared. I find
the times this naturally occurs in the New, General or Advanced areas are
very helpful. Often though, the theory or deep explanations go over my
head.

>> I greatly admire your enormous persistance with this project, and it looks
> fantastic, I just hope you back up your code :-)
>


Thank you for the encouragement. I do back up my code. I burn it to a CD
monthly, though in time of heavy work, I should probably increase that to
weekly.

Tim


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