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From: Clarence1898
Subject: Terminator
Date: 21 Aug 2025 10:47:21
Message: <pan$3ccf0$9b21aeea$e6b2edc8$99ced14@comcast.net>
No, not about Arnold.  I have always liked to model odd things.  This is 
from my early mainframe days.  Control units were daisy chained on channel 
cables.  This gadget was attached at the end to terminate the channel 
cable.  I doubt that I will ever use it in a scene, but it was fun to 
model.


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From: Clarence1898
Subject: Terminator - "BusTag.png" yEnc
Date: 21 Aug 2025 10:47:21
Message: <68a73179$1@news.povray.org>


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From: Clarence1898
Subject: Terminator - "TerminatorBlowUp.png" yEnc
Date: 21 Aug 2025 10:47:21
Message: <68a73179$3@news.povray.org>


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From: Clarence1898
Subject: Terminator - "TerminatorSide.png" yEnc
Date: 21 Aug 2025 10:47:21
Message: <68a73179$5@news.povray.org>


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From: jr
Subject: Re: Terminator - "TerminatorSide.png" yEnc
Date: 21 Aug 2025 11:05:00
Message: <web.68a73541e9587af47b8494536cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

Clarence1898 <dle### [at] comcastnet> wrote:
> ...
Attachments:
Download '=ybegin line=128 size=79710 name=TerminatorSide.png.dat' (81 KB)

none of those three files download or display, for me, unsurprising perhaps
given the names ;-).


regards, jr.


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From: Alain Martel
Subject: Re: Terminator
Date: 21 Aug 2025 11:10:50
Message: <68a736fa$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2025-08-21 à 10:47, Clarence1898 a écrit :
> No, not about Arnold.  I have always liked to model odd things.  This is
> from my early mainframe days.  Control units were daisy chained on channel
> cables.  This gadget was attached at the end to terminate the channel
> cable.  I doubt that I will ever use it in a scene, but it was fun to
> model.
> 

Please, do NOT use yEnc. Almost nobody can see your image. yEnc is 
fatally broken. Let it die. Unless I have support for the exact same 
version as you do, all I can see is strings of random garbage like this :
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From: Alain Martel
Subject: Re: Terminator - "TerminatorSide.png" yEnc
Date: 21 Aug 2025 11:24:06
Message: <68a73a16$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2025-08-21 à 11:03, jr a écrit :
> hi,
> 
> Clarence1898 <dle### [at] comcastnet> wrote:
>> ...
> Attachments:
> Download '=ybegin line=128 size=79710 name=TerminatorSide.png.dat' (81 KB)
> 
> none of those three files download or display, for me, unsurprising perhaps
> given the names ;-).
> 
> 
> regards, jr.
> 

Welcome to the nightmare that is yEnc encoding. A format that is 
incompatible with pretty much all E-mail clients and web browsers. You 
need a special yEnc E-mail client to view that.
Even better, clients from one source may not properly display a post 
made with a client from another source.


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From: jr
Subject: Re: Terminator - "TerminatorSide.png" yEnc
Date: 21 Aug 2025 11:50:00
Message: <web.68a73fdba7006c4b7b8494536cde94f1@news.povray.org>
hi,

Alain Martel <kua### [at] videotronca> wrote:

> > ...
> > none of those three files download or display, ...
>
> Welcome to the nightmare that is yEnc encoding. A format that is
> incompatible with pretty much all E-mail clients and web browsers. You
> need a special yEnc E-mail client to view that.
> Even better, clients from one source may not properly display a post
> made with a client from another source.

thanks for the heads-up, had not known of this abomination </grin>.  Wikipedia
explains: The name yEncode is a wordplay on "Why encode?".  quite..


regards, jr.


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From: Clarence1898
Subject: Re: Terminator
Date: 21 Aug 2025 18:20:00
Message: <web.68a79ac25b6ab7358db55336e0accf30@news.povray.org>
Clarence1898 <dle### [at] comcastnet> wrote:
> No, not about Arnold.  I have always liked to model odd things.  This is
> from my early mainframe days.  Control units were daisy chained on channel
> cables.  This gadget was attached at the end to terminate the channel
> cable.  I doubt that I will ever use it in a scene, but it was fun to
> model.

My apologies to everyone.  I couldn't figure how to attach multiple files with
the povray web page.  I tried a news reader program not realizing how it encoded
the files.  How do I attach multiple files in a povray post?


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Terminator
Date: 21 Aug 2025 19:17:45
Message: <68a7a919$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 18:16:34 EDT, Clarence1898 wrote:

> My apologies to everyone.  I couldn't figure how to attach multiple
> files with the povray web page.  I tried a news reader program not
> realizing how it encoded the files.  How do I attach multiple files in a
> povray post?

Probably the best thing to do is use something like Thunderbird.  The 
version of Pan you tried is pretty old (the current version is 0.164, you 
tried 0.149, which came out in 2021.

The current version doesn't include file attachments (that I can see).

FWIW, using Pan 0.163, I was able to see the images you uploaded just 
fine, but the web interface hasn't implemented a decoder for it.

And, of course, Thunderbird doesn't understand it either.  The yenc 
website also appears to be offline at the moment, though it was active as 
recently as June of this year.

-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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