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From: Steve
Subject: Re: The sphere within - 1 attachment
Date: 29 Apr 2003 15:42:45
Message: <slrnbatkqg.tp6.steve@zeropps.org.uk>
On 29 Apr 2003 06:53:01 -0400, Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> 
> Finally I had this CSG-shape rendered in
> glass and lit properly. The rendering was
> about 36 hours on my 2GHz Athlon PC.
> 
> I'm struggling a bit with some curved
> coincident surfaces.
> 
> Here's an image i posted earlier with the
> same shape in it:

That's beautiful, I've saved it to be used as a future desktop image. 

-- 
#local i=.1;#local I=(i/i)/i;#local l=(i+i)/i;#local ll=(I/i)/l;box{<-ll,
-((I/I)+l),-ll><ll,-l,ll>pigment{checker scale l}finish{ambient((I/l)/I)+
(l/I)}}sphere{<i-i,l-l,(I/l)>l/l pigment{rgb((I/l)/I)}finish{reflection((
I/l)/I)-(l/I)specular(I/l)/I}}light_source{<I-l,I+I,(I-l)/l>l/l} // Steve


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: The sphere within - 1 attachment
Date: 29 Apr 2003 17:44:25
Message: <3eaef239@news.povray.org>
That's really nice. Simple but complicated at the same time (i.e. it would take
me ages to make something like that!).

It's on a black background, so what's it reflecting? Did you just put some
no_image objects in there to make the reflections look more glassy? :)

Any chance you could show us the source for that object?

--
Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


"Tor Olav Kristensen" <tor_olav_kCURLYAhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns### [at] 204213191226...
>
> Finally I had this CSG-shape rendered in
> glass and lit properly. The rendering was
> about 36 hours on my 2GHz Athlon PC.
>
> I'm struggling a bit with some curved
> coincident surfaces.
>
> Here's an image i posted earlier with the
> same shape in it:
>
> http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/13533/
>
>
> Tor Olav
>
>


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: The sphere within - 1 attachment
Date: 29 Apr 2003 18:16:48
Message: <Xns936D37F82F77torolavkhotmailcom@204.213.191.226>
"Fernando Gonzalez del Cueto" <fgd### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in 
news:3eaec1a6$1@news.povray.org:

> Wow...
> 
> How did you do this using CSG?
> 
> Looks cool.

Thank you.

It is made with CSG of spheres and tori. I made
a macro to do all the math and cutting work.

You can find it in the source code for the
"Fung_CSG" image at this page:

http://home.no/t-o-k/povray/

The name of the macro is BetweenTori().


Here is a cut-away view of the shape:

http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/13478/


I can try to explain more later this week if
you or anyone else are interested.


Tor Olav


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: The sphere within - 1 attachment
Date: 29 Apr 2003 18:21:47
Message: <Xns936D45837641torolavkhotmailcom@204.213.191.226>
Tim Cook <z99### [at] bellsouthnet> wrote in news:3eaece60$1@news.povray.org:

> Fernando Gonzalez del Cueto wrote:
>> How did you do this using CSG?
> 
> Looks like some torii and spheres cleverly differenced
> by either cones or cylinders or both.

You are close, but although it seems that there
are cones and cylinders involved, there are none.

It only CSG with spheres and tori (and a plane).


Tor Olav


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: The sphere within - 1 attachment
Date: 29 Apr 2003 18:24:05
Message: <Xns936D4BBB36E6torolavkhotmailcom@204.213.191.226>
Steve <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> wrote in 
news:slr### [at] zeroppsorguk:

> On 29 Apr 2003 06:53:01 -0400, Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
>> 
>> Finally I had this CSG-shape rendered in
>> glass and lit properly. The rendering was
>> about 36 hours on my 2GHz Athlon PC.
>> 
>> I'm struggling a bit with some curved
>> coincident surfaces.
>> 
>> Here's an image i posted earlier with the
>> same shape in it:
> 
> That's beautiful, I've saved it to be used as a future desktop image. 

I'm glad you like it Steve.

If my PC gets unemployed for a longer period,
then I'll render and post a larger version of it.


Tor Olav


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: The sphere within - 1 attachment
Date: 29 Apr 2003 18:42:37
Message: <Xns936D7E0DE34Etorolavkhotmailcom@204.213.191.226>
"Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in news:3eaef239@news.povray.org:

> That's really nice. Simple but complicated at the same time (i.e. it
> would take me ages to make something like that!).
> 
> It's on a black background, so what's it reflecting? Did you just put
> some no_image objects in there to make the reflections look more
> glassy? :) 
> 
> Any chance you could show us the source for that object?

Thank you Tek.

The background is just two plain discs behind each
other. Apart from the object itself there are no
other objects in the scene. (There is of course a
light source to produce the highlit spot.)

The disc closest to the camera is black and covers
just the view of the camera.

The other disc is white and is placed right behind
the black one. It's radius is 10 times bigger.
(It can be replaced with an infinite plane.)

I hope that I can find time to clean up the code and
show it later this week.


Tor Olav


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From: Tim Nikias v2 0
Subject: Re: The sphere within - 1 attachment
Date: 30 Apr 2003 06:40:01
Message: <3eafa801$1@news.povray.org>
I'm interested! If you've got the time, explain! :-)

Regards,
Tim

--
Tim Nikias v2.0
Homepage: http://www.digitaltwilight.de/no_lights
Email: Tim### [at] gmxde

>
> > Wow...
> >
> > How did you do this using CSG?
> >
> > Looks cool.
>
> Thank you.
>
> It is made with CSG of spheres and tori. I made
> a macro to do all the math and cutting work.
>
> You can find it in the source code for the
> "Fung_CSG" image at this page:
>
> http://home.no/t-o-k/povray/
>
> The name of the macro is BetweenTori().
>
>
> Here is a cut-away view of the shape:
>
> http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/13478/
>
>
> I can try to explain more later this week if
> you or anyone else are interested.
>
>
> Tor Olav


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: The sphere within - 1 attachment
Date: 30 Apr 2003 13:45:09
Message: <3eb00ba5$1@news.povray.org>
Me too!
I can see what you're doing but I tried figuring this out once and gave up when
it got complicated!

--
Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


"Tim Nikias v2.0" <tim### [at] gmxde> wrote in message
news:3eafa801$1@news.povray.org...
> I'm interested! If you've got the time, explain! :-)
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
> --
> Tim Nikias v2.0
> Homepage: http://www.digitaltwilight.de/no_lights
> Email: Tim### [at] gmxde
>
> >
> > > Wow...
> > >
> > > How did you do this using CSG?
> > >
> > > Looks cool.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > It is made with CSG of spheres and tori. I made
> > a macro to do all the math and cutting work.
> >
> > You can find it in the source code for the
> > "Fung_CSG" image at this page:
> >
> > http://home.no/t-o-k/povray/
> >
> > The name of the macro is BetweenTori().
> >
> >
> > Here is a cut-away view of the shape:
> >
> > http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/13478/
> >
> >
> > I can try to explain more later this week if
> > you or anyone else are interested.
> >
> >
> > Tor Olav
>
>


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: The sphere within - 1 attachment
Date: 30 Apr 2003 13:46:21
Message: <3eb00bed$1@news.povray.org>
Wow, all the internal reflections made me think there must be more scenery :)

--
Tek
http://www.evilsuperbrain.com


"Tor Olav Kristensen" <tor_olav_kCURLYAhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns### [at] 204213191226...
> "Tek" <tek### [at] evilsuperbraincom> wrote in news:3eaef239@news.povray.org:
>
> > That's really nice. Simple but complicated at the same time (i.e. it
> > would take me ages to make something like that!).
> >
> > It's on a black background, so what's it reflecting? Did you just put
> > some no_image objects in there to make the reflections look more
> > glassy? :)
> >
> > Any chance you could show us the source for that object?
>
> Thank you Tek.
>
> The background is just two plain discs behind each
> other. Apart from the object itself there are no
> other objects in the scene. (There is of course a
> light source to produce the highlit spot.)
>
> The disc closest to the camera is black and covers
> just the view of the camera.
>
> The other disc is white and is placed right behind
> the black one. It's radius is 10 times bigger.
> (It can be replaced with an infinite plane.)
>
> I hope that I can find time to clean up the code and
> show it later this week.
>
>
> Tor Olav


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From: Andrew Coppin
Subject: Re: The sphere within - 1 attachment
Date: 30 Apr 2003 14:01:17
Message: <3eb00f6d$1@news.povray.org>
Yes, yes, YES... This is extremely cool... I love it!

Andrew.


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