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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: A Quiet Lane
Date: 9 Feb 2021 02:33:24
Message: <60223ac4@news.povray.org>
Op 08/02/2021 om 11:15 schreef Paolo Gibellini:
> Thomas de Groot wrote on 04/02/2021 09:06:
>> Finally, after about four months.
>>
>> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the Late 
>> Romantic school and Genre pieces.
>>
>> This is about the first scene were I made /really/ use of pigment 
>> patterns (road, thatched roofs, dirt on walls) and the Displacement 
>> tool in Poseray (thatched roofs). Those will be tools I shall come 
>> back too frequently.
>>
> 
> The mood is incredibly... beautiful.
> Bravo!
> 
> Paolo

Thank you indeed, Paolo.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: A Quiet Lane - 2nd state
Date: 11 Feb 2021 02:40:27
Message: <6024df6b@news.povray.org>
Second state of the scene, this time rendered with stochastic aa. Took 
about 16 hours on an i5 laptop (for what it's worth). The quality is 
slightly better, especially where small twigs are concerned. I probably 
could use even better settings but I do not want to wait much longer for 
a render as other things are pressing.

Following Bill's comment about Sam Benge's Luminous Bloom, I dusted the 
facility off, adapted it to latest pov version (gamma and emission) and 
tweaked the settings until I got this somewhat painterly output. I like 
it but am not going to experiment much further at present.

-- 
Thomas


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From: William F Pokorny
Subject: Re: A Quiet Lane - 2nd state
Date: 11 Feb 2021 05:18:52
Message: <6025048c$1@news.povray.org>
On 2/11/21 2:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Second state of the scene, this time rendered with stochastic aa. Took 
> about 16 hours on an i5 laptop (for what it's worth). The quality is 
> slightly better, especially where small twigs are concerned. I probably 
> could use even better settings but I do not want to wait much longer for 
> a render as other things are pressing.
> 
> Following Bill's comment about Sam Benge's Luminous Bloom, I dusted the 
> facility off, adapted it to latest pov version (gamma and emission) and 
> tweaked the settings until I got this somewhat painterly output. I like 
> it but am not going to experiment much further at present.
> 

Attaching an image of three image to image compares.

Top row your initial post to the one with stochastic aa. The middle row 
your _2 post to the luminous bloom result. Bottom row your original post 
compared to my first posted bloom filter image (the most blurry one).

Obvious the luminous bloom filter is acting differently than my AA based 
bloom filter. Sam's being more luminous (true to its name) and less 
blurry. Just now took a quick look at my local copy of his (version 7b). 
I'd forgotten his has different modes of bloom (7 of them) plus ability 
to cutomize many aspects! His filter is simply much more developed and 
flexible with a somewhat different primary aim.

Bill P.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: A Quiet Lane - 2nd state
Date: 12 Feb 2021 02:37:56
Message: <60263054$1@news.povray.org>
Op 11/02/2021 om 11:18 schreef William F Pokorny:
> On 2/11/21 2:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Second state of the scene, this time rendered with stochastic aa. Took 
>> about 16 hours on an i5 laptop (for what it's worth). The quality is 
>> slightly better, especially where small twigs are concerned. I 
>> probably could use even better settings but I do not want to wait much 
>> longer for a render as other things are pressing.
>>
>> Following Bill's comment about Sam Benge's Luminous Bloom, I dusted 
>> the facility off, adapted it to latest pov version (gamma and 
>> emission) and tweaked the settings until I got this somewhat painterly 
>> output. I like it but am not going to experiment much further at present.
>>
> 
> Attaching an image of three image to image compares.
> 
> Top row your initial post to the one with stochastic aa. The middle row 
> your _2 post to the luminous bloom result. Bottom row your original post 
> compared to my first posted bloom filter image (the most blurry one).
> 
> Obvious the luminous bloom filter is acting differently than my AA based 
> bloom filter. Sam's being more luminous (true to its name) and less 
> blurry. Just now took a quick look at my local copy of his (version 7b). 
> I'd forgotten his has different modes of bloom (7 of them) plus ability 
> to cutomize many aspects! His filter is simply much more developed and 
> flexible with a somewhat different primary aim.
> 
> Bill P.

I forgot to mention that I used Sam's version 6, which only has his 
original bloom. Version 7 (a and/or b) have indeed some more options 
which I have not tried.

-- 
Thomas


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From: jr
Subject: Re: A Quiet Lane - 2nd state
Date: 12 Feb 2021 04:40:00
Message: <web.60264c00cfed4d9779819d980@news.povray.org>
hi,

William F Pokorny <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> On 2/11/21 2:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> > ...
> Attaching an image of three image to image compares.
> ...

I hope it's not heresy (Thomas) to say that I think the centre and bottom right
"diffs" even more attractive than the actual image.  :-)


regards, jr.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: A Quiet Lane - 2nd state
Date: 13 Feb 2021 02:45:15
Message: <6027838b$1@news.povray.org>
Op 12/02/2021 om 10:36 schreef jr:
> hi,
> 
> William F Pokorny <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>> On 2/11/21 2:40 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> ...
>> Attaching an image of three image to image compares.
>> ...
> 
> I hope it's not heresy (Thomas) to say that I think the centre and bottom right
> "diffs" even more attractive than the actual image.  :-)
> 
> 
> regards, jr.
> 

I will bear my cross meekly :-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: A Quiet Lane - 2nd state
Date: 19 Feb 2021 17:35:00
Message: <web.60303cd9cfed4d97d98418910@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Second state of the scene, this time rendered with stochastic aa...
>
> Following Bill's comment about Sam Benge's Luminous Bloom, I dusted the
> facility off, adapted it to latest pov version (gamma and emission) and
> tweaked the settings until I got this somewhat painterly output. I like
> it but am not going to experiment much further at present.
>

That's a beautiful and pastoral scene; sorry that I had not commented previously
(too many POV-ray tasks and tests taking up my time.) I love the thatched roofs,
and the overall setting (and lighting.) I actually prefer the non-bloom image.
IMO, that effect seems to work/look better when applied to larger or simpler
shapes-- as opposed to 'blooming' lots of fine details, which looks more like an
overall haze. Or maybe that's the intended effect here ;-)


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: A Quiet Lane - 2nd state
Date: 20 Feb 2021 02:31:47
Message: <6030bae3$1@news.povray.org>
Op 19/02/2021 om 23:34 schreef Kenneth:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> Second state of the scene, this time rendered with stochastic aa...
>>
>> Following Bill's comment about Sam Benge's Luminous Bloom, I dusted the
>> facility off, adapted it to latest pov version (gamma and emission) and
>> tweaked the settings until I got this somewhat painterly output. I like
>> it but am not going to experiment much further at present.
>>
> 
> That's a beautiful and pastoral scene; sorry that I had not commented previously
> (too many POV-ray tasks and tests taking up my time.) I love the thatched roofs,
> and the overall setting (and lighting.) I actually prefer the non-bloom image.
> IMO, that effect seems to work/look better when applied to larger or simpler
> shapes-- as opposed to 'blooming' lots of fine details, which looks more like an
> overall haze. Or maybe that's the intended effect here ;-)
> 
> 

Thank you Kenneth. The bloom version is - as far as I am concerned - 
only an excursion out of curiosity following Bill's comment. It was 
something I was curious about after all that time. I like its effect but 
it is not my favourite either and anyway the scene was not created with 
bloom in mind. My real intention was the re-creation of those 19th 
century ideas about the country side (sometimes stimulated by underlying 
social viewpoints) especially after the invention of paint tubes which 
enabled artists to work in the open air.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: A Quiet Lane - 2nd state
Date: 20 Feb 2021 15:32:55
Message: <603171f7$1@news.povray.org>
On 2021-02-20 3:31 AM (-4), Thomas de Groot wrote:
> 
>  My real intention was the re-creation of those 19th 
> century ideas about the country side (sometimes stimulated by underlying 
> social viewpoints) especially after the invention of paint tubes which 
> enabled artists to work in the open air.

It never occurred to me that an invention I take for granted would be so 
consequential.  But of course in the days when artists had to grind 
their own pigments, the paint would have dried out faster outdoors.

My gosh, and stuck inside with all that turpentine!


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: A Quiet Lane - 2nd state
Date: 21 Feb 2021 02:19:25
Message: <6032097d$1@news.povray.org>
Op 20/02/2021 om 21:32 schreef Cousin Ricky:
> On 2021-02-20 3:31 AM (-4), Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>

>> about the country side (sometimes stimulated by underlying social 
>> viewpoints) especially after the invention of paint tubes which 
>> enabled artists to work in the open air.
> 
> It never occurred to me that an invention I take for granted would be so 

> their own pigments, the paint would have dried out faster outdoors.
> 
> My gosh, and stuck inside with all that turpentine!

<grin>
What would Vincent van Gogh have done without tubes...?

-- 
Thomas


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