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in news:601bab05@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Finally, after about four months.
>
"Een mooi erf" in the dutch tradition.
Ingo
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Op 05/02/2021 om 10:48 schreef jr:
> hi,
>
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degroot org> wrote:
>> ...
>> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the Late
>> Romantic school and Genre pieces.
>> '''
>
> although "pastoral" isn't my thing, agree with others - quality. the image
> looks as if it could have "jumped off" someone's easel.
>
> two small nits (:-)). the current resolution is too low for zooming in on
> detail, and the barn door still needs either a lintel, or a frame, to support
> the bricks across it.
>
>
> regards, jr.
>
Thanks indeed.
Ah, my friend, zooming is not allowed, hmm? Anyway, zooming in on a
painting will also only reveal blobs of paint ;-)
Ah! That lintel! The builder has been fired and the situation corrected
before anything untoward would happen.
Next render (stochastic) will show the new situation.
--
Thomas
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Op 05/02/2021 om 17:02 schreef Alain Martel:
> Le 2021-02-04 à 03:06, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
>> Finally, after about four months.
>>
>> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the Late
>> Romantic school and Genre pieces.
>>
>> This is about the first scene were I made /really/ use of pigment
>> patterns (road, thatched roofs, dirt on walls) and the Displacement
>> tool in Poseray (thatched roofs). Those will be tools I shall come
>> back too frequently.
>>
>
> Master work !
Thank you!
--
Thomas
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Op 05/02/2021 om 19:53 schreef ingo:
> in news:601bab05@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
>> Finally, after about four months.
>>
>
> "Een mooi erf" in the dutch tradition.
>
> Ingo
>
LOL yes indeed! Everything was put 'spic en span' before I had set up my
easel.
--
Thomas
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Op 05/02/2021 om 15:52 schreef William F Pokorny:
> On 2/5/21 2:28 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> I have the intention to do also a stochastic render of the scene. I
>> /think/ that would give a better result.
>
> Yes, that would be interesting to see. With the stochastic techniques
> I'm always wondering how much is a better render result and how much
> looks better because one has introduced noise. And if that last true,
> even in part, might we add noise by some more efficient means. Anyway...
> Always a thousand ideas.
I have started a stochastic render and so far it looks good: finer
details becoming clearer. No special settings at this moment: +a0.1
+ac0.95 +r3. I later want to see how, drastically decreasing +ac, will
turn out. Noise should be more visible then.
>
> I've been playing with more ideas using your image. Attaching three
> images. In toBloomOrOther.jpg showing your original to my already posted
> bloom filter image in the top row. In the middle row the bloom filter at
> about 1/3 the aggressiveness of the top row. In the bottom row not
> really bloom, but more adding noise by regional sampling about each
> pixel. Less blur in the bottom two rows, but still maybe too much to
> tastes.
I need to study those images a bit longer. Interesting stuff indeed.
>
> While at that, Mr's question about adding more contrast knocked
> something loose in my head and I had the thought, "what does average do
> with negative weights...?" Well! Interesting stuff - about which I've
> not completely wrapped my head.
>
> You can use negative weights. If you get the balance right you can get
> an image with more contrast with my bloom filter set up. Using:
>
> #declare PigmentMap00 = pigment_map {
> [-1.0 Pigment1 ]
> [-0.7 Pigment2 ]
> [-0.6 Pigment3 ]
> [+0.5 Pigment4 ]
> [+0.4 Pigment5 ]
> [+0.3 Pigment6 ]
> [+0.2 Pigment7 ]
> [+0.1 Pigment8 ]
> }
> #declare PigmMerge = pigment {
> average
> pigment_map { PigmentMap00 }
> }
>
> I get the Contrast00.jpg image, which isn't traditional contrast, but
> something more along the lines of tone mapping. Without even trying! I
> find it amusing it's possible to stumble my way into such functionality.
> :-) Aside: I shrank the image size because it got large even as a jpeg
> due the detail popping out - the detail jr wanted to see and probably
> still can't. ;-)
Jr is presently battling the sticky paint on his fingers. :-)
>
> If you get the balance for contrast slightly wrong, other interesting
> things happen. See Cartoon00.jpg. The only difference is the -0.6 weight
> above was instead +0.6.
I like the Cartoon version!
>
> Creating these last two images is fast supposing the eight image
> pigments into the average function already exist. Whether with effort
> and exploration techniques using negative average weights could be made
> more finely controllable - in other words, truly usable - I don't know.
>
I need to look close here. This is interesting.
> So many things to play with and so little time.
True. True. I am glad this image fires off the neurons.
>
> Bill P.
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Thomas
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Am 04.02.2021 um 09:06 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> Finally, after about four months.
>
> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the Late
> Romantic school and Genre pieces.
>
> This is about the first scene were I made /really/ use of pigment
> patterns (road, thatched roofs, dirt on walls) and the Displacement tool
> in Poseray (thatched roofs). Those will be tools I shall come back too
> frequently.
>
A very nice image indeed. The road texture is perfect. Maybe the caps
and the skirts of the maids are a lttle bit to clean and the cat seems
to have the size of a lynx. But this are only small flaws to a very
great image.
Congratulations
Michael
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On 2/7/2021 1:36 PM, MichaelJF wrote:
> Am 04.02.2021 um 09:06 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> Finally, after about four months.
>>
>> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the Late
>> Romantic school and Genre pieces.
>>
>> This is about the first scene were I made /really/ use of pigment
>> patterns (road, thatched roofs, dirt on walls) and the Displacement
>> tool in Poseray (thatched roofs). Those will be tools I shall come
>> back too frequently.
>>
> A very nice image indeed. The road texture is perfect. Maybe the caps
> and the skirts of the maids are a lttle bit to clean and the cat seems
> to have the size of a lynx. But this are only small flaws to a very
> great image.
>
> Congratulations
> Michael
Nice image!
I thought it was a Schnauzer.
Mike
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Op 07/02/2021 om 19:36 schreef MichaelJF:
> Am 04.02.2021 um 09:06 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> Finally, after about four months.
>>
>> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the Late
>> Romantic school and Genre pieces.
>>
>> This is about the first scene were I made /really/ use of pigment
>> patterns (road, thatched roofs, dirt on walls) and the Displacement
>> tool in Poseray (thatched roofs). Those will be tools I shall come
>> back too frequently.
>>
> A very nice image indeed. The road texture is perfect. Maybe the caps
> and the skirts of the maids are a lttle bit to clean and the cat seems
> to have the size of a lynx. But this are only small flaws to a very
> great image.
>
> Congratulations
> Michael
Thank you Michael!
What you see is an effect of perspective. The cat is cat-sized when it
walks back to its mistress, asking for milk. So: illusion!
The caps are certainly /not/ too clean; maybe the lower edge of the
skirts (which you can hardly see) or the aprons. However, this is not
about naturalism and a denunciation of poor living conditions in the
country side. ;-)
--
Thomas
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Op 07/02/2021 om 23:27 schreef Mike Horvath:
> On 2/7/2021 1:36 PM, MichaelJF wrote:
>> Am 04.02.2021 um 09:06 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>>> Finally, after about four months.
>>>
>>> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the
>>> Late Romantic school and Genre pieces.
>>>
>>> This is about the first scene were I made /really/ use of pigment
>>> patterns (road, thatched roofs, dirt on walls) and the Displacement
>>> tool in Poseray (thatched roofs). Those will be tools I shall come
>>> back too frequently.
>>>
>> A very nice image indeed. The road texture is perfect. Maybe the caps
>> and the skirts of the maids are a lttle bit to clean and the cat seems
>> to have the size of a lynx. But this are only small flaws to a very
>> great image.
>>
>> Congratulations
>> Michael
>
>
> Nice image!
>
> I thought it was a Schnauzer.
>
>
> Mike
LOL no. Just a cat. Perspective playing tricks.
--
Thomas
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Thomas de Groot wrote on 04/02/2021 09:06:
> Finally, after about four months.
>
> The scene is inspired by late nineteenth century paintings of the Late
> Romantic school and Genre pieces.
>
> This is about the first scene were I made /really/ use of pigment
> patterns (road, thatched roofs, dirt on walls) and the Displacement tool
> in Poseray (thatched roofs). Those will be tools I shall come back too
> frequently.
>
The mood is incredibly... beautiful.
Bravo!
Paolo
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