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From: Ash Holsenback
Subject: shiny
Date: 3 Dec 2020 16:27:15
Message: <5fc911e3@news.povray.org>
i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...


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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 3 Dec 2020 18:25:36
Message: <5fc92da0$1@news.povray.org>
Am 03.12.2020 um 17:27 schrieb Ash Holsenback:
> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
Very nice,

how did you model the background and the colloseum-like mirrored 
structure in your tea-pot?

The background can only be modeled with xfrog and with some months work 
to model all the differences between the plants if one didn't use a 
photography simply.

I think your image is a simple modeled teapot between two photographies.

Really a nice image, but not really created with POV, IMO.

Best regards
Michael


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From: Alain Martel
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 3 Dec 2020 18:45:29
Message: <5fc93249$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2020-12-03 à 13:25, MichaelJF a écrit :
> Am 03.12.2020 um 17:27 schrieb Ash Holsenback:
>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
> Very nice,
> 
> how did you model the background and the colloseum-like mirrored 
> structure in your tea-pot?
> 
> The background can only be modeled with xfrog and with some months work 
> to model all the differences between the plants if one didn't use a 
> photography simply.
> 
> I think your image is a simple modeled teapot between two photographies.
> 
> Really a nice image, but not really created with POV, IMO.
> 
> Best regards
> Michael
The background is not modelled, it's an HDR light probe.


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 3 Dec 2020 19:10:00
Message: <web.5fc93767fc5816461f9dae300@news.povray.org>
MichaelJF <mi-### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
> Am 03.12.2020 um 17:27 schrieb Ash Holsenback:
> > i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
> Very nice,
>
> how did you model the background and the colloseum-like mirrored
> structure in your tea-pot?

He didn't - it's an HDRI light source.  I have the same one.
Not sure what the URL for that specific one is, but it's a pretty standard way
to instantly add a ton of richness to an image or object even if the backround
or its reflections can't be clearly seen.

A similar site for HDR sources:
https://hdrihaven.com/hdris/?c=all

> I think your image is a simple modeled teapot between two photographies.

It is, but it's inside a spherical image which provides the scene lighting and
the richness of the varied light sources and reflections.
http://www.f-lohmueller.de/pov_tut/backgrnd/p_sky10.htm

> Really a nice image, but not really created with POV, IMO.


Well, it is, even though the light source wasn't created from scratch.
What is "created in POV-Ray" can be debated endlessly.

I use code snippets, include files, image_maps, formulas, and all other manner
of pre-existing tools to shove the image out the other end of the work-flow,
before I lose the time/energy/opportunity.  There's also the metric ton of
under-the-hood stuff that's already encoded into POV-Ray that I don't write from
scratch.
I've encountered people who have made the claim that "I didn't do xyz "myself"
since the procedural texture was already programmed into POV-Ray...

I suppose I could do it in ShaderToy, and then I'd write the camera, the light
source, the shadowing, texturing, etc all myself.....

It's still a nice teapot and pleasing image.
Nice work, Jim.


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From: David Buck
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 4 Dec 2020 02:43:51
Message: <5fc9a267$1@news.povray.org>
Wow, that's amazing.

David Buck


On 2020-12-03 11:27 a.m., Ash Holsenback wrote:
> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 4 Dec 2020 07:25:48
Message: <5fc9e47c@news.povray.org>
Op 03/12/2020 om 17:27 schreef Ash Holsenback:
> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...

Always fascinating to discover in what kind of environments teapots 
appear... ;-)

Well done sir.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Ash Holsenback
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 4 Dec 2020 09:38:41
Message: <5fca03a1@news.povray.org>
On 12/3/20 1:45 PM, Alain Martel wrote:
> Le 2020-12-03 à 13:25, MichaelJF a écrit :
>> Am 03.12.2020 um 17:27 schrieb Ash Holsenback:
>>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
>> Very nice,
>>
>> how did you model the background and the colloseum-like mirrored 
>> structure in your tea-pot?
>>
>> The background can only be modeled with xfrog and with some months 
>> work to model all the differences between the plants if one didn't use 
>> a photography simply.
>>
>> I think your image is a simple modeled teapot between two photographies.
>>
>> Really a nice image, but not really created with POV, IMO.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Michael
> The background is not modelled, it's an HDR light probe.
> 
http://www.hdrlabs.com/sibl/archive.html


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From: Ash Holsenback
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 4 Dec 2020 09:43:48
Message: <5fca04d4$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/3/20 2:07 PM, Bald Eagle wrote:
> It's still a nice teapot and pleasing image.
> Nice work, Jim.

danke... using it as an aladins lamp


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From: Ash Holsenback
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 4 Dec 2020 09:44:57
Message: <5fca0519$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/3/20 9:43 PM, David Buck wrote:
> Wow, that's amazing.
> 
> David Buck
> 
> 
> On 2020-12-03 11:27 a.m., Ash Holsenback wrote:
>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
> 
thanks... it's still a wip


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From: Ash Holsenback
Subject: Re: shiny
Date: 4 Dec 2020 09:49:10
Message: <5fca0616$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/4/20 2:25 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Op 03/12/2020 om 17:27 schreef Ash Holsenback:
>> i thought a monolith was a bit cliche...
> 
> Always fascinating to discover in what kind of environments teapots 
> appear... ;-)
> 
> Well done sir.
> 

i'm going to use the oreo cookie, antichron and lamp (and perhaps one 
other object)... non-related items, juxtaposition ... not sure of the 
artistic term


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