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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Nature beyond
Date: 6 Jun 2020 07:25:32
Message: <5edb44ec@news.povray.org>
It has been some time since I last posted an image. Here is my latest, 
showing a remote corner on Earth, far from humanity.

The landscape was modelled with the latest version of World Machine, 
including the landscape map generated by the program. This last is nice 
from a distance; close up it appears too coarse but can be used then as 
a basis for further texture reworking.

As a sea, I used Jaime Vives Piqueres' sea macros 
(http://www.ignorancia.org/index.php/galleries/old-images/sea-buoy/), to 
which I added the foam, based on work by Marc Jacquier 
(http://www://www.povcomp.com/entries/174.php and Tekno Frannansa (aka Tek). 
It is not yet entirely satisfying and needs more work.

The clouds are based on code my Mick Hazelgrove and Juha Leppälä. The 
cloud cover is quite thick: 1000 POV-units.

The frolicking sperm whales were found somewhere on the net.

The sea gulls are models by Mick Hazelgrove (see: The Preacher: 
http://hof.povray.org/4b.html)

The sky and landscape rendered quite fast, less than 15 minutes. The sea 
however took much longer: about a dozen hours more or less. I did that 
in several, successive, sessions.

-- 
Thomas


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From: BayashiPascal
Subject: Re: Nature beyond
Date: 6 Jun 2020 09:55:01
Message: <web.5edb66f5a10711b3bf64454a0@news.povray.org>
A remote and peaceful corner for sure :-)
I thought some water falling off from the whales' tail would improve realism.


Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> It has been some time since I last posted an image. Here is my latest,
> showing a remote corner on Earth, far from humanity.
>
> The landscape was modelled with the latest version of World Machine,
> including the landscape map generated by the program. This last is nice
> from a distance; close up it appears too coarse but can be used then as
> a basis for further texture reworking.
>
> As a sea, I used Jaime Vives Piqueres' sea macros
> (http://www.ignorancia.org/index.php/galleries/old-images/sea-buoy/), to
> which I added the foam, based on work by Marc Jacquier
> (http://www://www.povcomp.com/entries/174.php and Tekno Frannansa (aka Tek).
> It is not yet entirely satisfying and needs more work.
>
> The clouds are based on code my Mick Hazelgrove and Juha Leppälä. The
> cloud cover is quite thick: 1000 POV-units.
>
> The frolicking sperm whales were found somewhere on the net.
>
> The sea gulls are models by Mick Hazelgrove (see: The Preacher:
> http://hof.povray.org/4b.html)
>
> The sky and landscape rendered quite fast, less than 15 minutes. The sea
> however took much longer: about a dozen hours more or less. I did that
> in several, successive, sessions.
>
> --
> Thomas


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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: Re: Nature beyond
Date: 6 Jun 2020 20:00:00
Message: <web.5edbf55ea10711b3afdd13e10@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> It has been some time since I last posted an image. Here is my latest,
> showing a remote corner on Earth, far from humanity.
>
> The landscape was modelled with the latest version of World Machine,
> including the landscape map generated by the program. This last is nice
> from a distance; close up it appears too coarse but can be used then as
> a basis for further texture reworking.
>
> As a sea, I used Jaime Vives Piqueres' sea macros
> (http://www.ignorancia.org/index.php/galleries/old-images/sea-buoy/), to
> which I added the foam, based on work by Marc Jacquier
> (http://www://www.povcomp.com/entries/174.php and Tekno Frannansa (aka Tek).
> It is not yet entirely satisfying and needs more work.
>
> The clouds are based on code my Mick Hazelgrove and Juha Leppälä. The
> cloud cover is quite thick: 1000 POV-units.
>
> The frolicking sperm whales were found somewhere on the net.
>
> The sea gulls are models by Mick Hazelgrove (see: The Preacher:
> http://hof.povray.org/4b.html)
>
> The sky and landscape rendered quite fast, less than 15 minutes. The sea
> however took much longer: about a dozen hours more or less. I did that
> in several, successive, sessions.
>
> --
> Thomas



Hi Thomas,

a nice image, thank you for that!
I like the clouds - as in your valhalla image.
Great use of the sea gulls - they are really ok at distance.

Thank you for remembering Worldmachine. I paid for an early version back in 2004
or 2005 and I used an old heightfield for my recent image. At once I downloaded
the free version, but the free version doesn't allow to generate large
heightfields - and 120 bucks for a full version....

I avoid several sessions most of the times - why not investing in a second cheap
machine for the usual things?


Regards,
Norbert


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From: Ton
Subject: Re: Nature beyond
Date: 7 Jun 2020 01:30:01
Message: <web.5edc41ffa10711b3f72753120@news.povray.org>
Great image, Thomas, makes me want to jump on a cruise-ship and sail up to
Alaska!

Cheers
Ton.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Nature beyond
Date: 7 Jun 2020 06:20:27
Message: <5edc872b$1@news.povray.org>
Op 06/06/2020 om 11:50 schreef BayashiPascal:
> A remote and peaceful corner for sure :-)
> I thought some water falling off from the whales' tail would improve realism.
> 

Absolutely. Will be done. Thanks for the pointer.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Nature beyond
Date: 7 Jun 2020 06:49:09
Message: <5edc8de5$1@news.povray.org>
Op 06/06/2020 om 21:58 schreef Norbert Kern:

> Hi Thomas,
> 
> a nice image, thank you for that!
> I like the clouds - as in your valhalla image.
> Great use of the sea gulls - they are really ok at distance.

Thanks indeed Norbert. These simple-shape sea gulls are only correct at 
a distance. A long time ago, I wrote a macro for different random wing 
positions which improves their use.

Mick's cloudscape code is some of the best I know. For some reason I am 
focusing on it now, in combination with more sophisticated skies and 
Sun, in particular LightsysIV by the way.

> 
> Thank you for remembering Worldmachine. I paid for an early version back in 2004
> or 2005 and I used an old heightfield for my recent image. At once I downloaded
> the free version, but the free version doesn't allow to generate large
> heightfields - and 120 bucks for a full version....
>
I use the free version of World Machine and I found ways to increase the 
size of the height_fields as a post-process. In particular, using the 
32bit exr output is interesting: I pass it through the IC utility from 
LILYsoft and increase size and resolution. The result is not 100% of 
course but it is really workable.

For my regular height_fields, I use a now ancient version of GeoControl 
which also produces tile-able height_fields. However, I like to 
experiment with different utilities, sometimes combining them by 
saving/loading the results through a set of programs (e.g. GeoControl of 
course, Wilbur, Terrabrush, WorldMachine, rarely Terragen).

> I avoid several sessions most of the times - why not investing in a second cheap
> machine for the usual things?
> 
Well, it works for me this way although the total parsing/render time is 
increased of course. In fact I have three machines, two laptops and an 
ancient PC. The problem is mainly one of where to place them 
strategically so that the rest of the family is not driven mad by 
howling fans ;-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Nature beyond
Date: 7 Jun 2020 06:56:36
Message: <5edc8fa4@news.povray.org>
Op 07/06/2020 om 03:25 schreef Ton:
> Great image, Thomas, makes me want to jump on a cruise-ship and sail up to
> Alaska!
> 

Thanks Ton! Avoid the cruise-ship however ;-)

In a distant past (35 years ago), I once sailed on the RV Polarstern to 
the Antarctic; saw some whales but they were too far away to be observed 
properly. Probably this image is linked somehow to that memory.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Nature beyond
Date: 7 Jun 2020 07:07:31
Message: <5edc9233@news.povray.org>
Op 07/06/2020 om 08:56 schreef Thomas de Groot:
> In a distant past (35 years ago), I once sailed on the RV Polarstern to 
> the Antarctic; saw some whales but they were too far away to be observed 
> properly. Probably this image is linked somehow to that memory.
> 

For fun: I just found this old print of those days. Near Deception 
Island... :-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Nature beyond
Date: 7 Jun 2020 07:17:33
Message: <5edc948d$1@news.povray.org>
Op 07/06/2020 om 09:07 schreef Thomas de Groot:
> Op 07/06/2020 om 08:56 schreef Thomas de Groot:
>> In a distant past (35 years ago), I once sailed on the RV Polarstern 
>> to the Antarctic; saw some whales but they were too far away to be 
>> observed properly. Probably this image is linked somehow to that memory.
>>
> 
> For fun: I just found this old print of those days. Near Deception 
> Island... :-)
> 

So I clicked to fast on send.

Sea surface by Jaime Vives Piqueres; World Machine for Deception Island; 
RV Polarstern courtesy by Alfred Wegener Istitut; Me, cloned by Poser. ;-)

Interesting detail: 12 hours after this photograph, the wind was howling 
at 11 to 12 Beaufort...

-- 
Thomas


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From: jr
Subject: Re: Nature beyond
Date: 7 Jun 2020 08:30:03
Message: <web.5edca577a10711b34d00143e0@news.povray.org>
hi,

Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Op 07/06/2020 om 09:07 schreef Thomas de Groot:
> > Op 07/06/2020 om 08:56 schreef Thomas de Groot:
> >> In a distant past ...
> Sea surface by Jaime Vives Piqueres; World Machine for Deception Island;
> RV Polarstern courtesy by Alfred Wegener Istitut; Me, cloned by Poser. ;-)

lol.  nice .. render.  cheers.


regards, jr.


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