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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 11 Mar 2019 03:26:07
Message: <5c860d8f$1@news.povray.org>
On 11-3-2019 0:42, Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> .....
>> To all: What are those windows called in other languages?
> 
> According to Wikipedia its English name is crown glass:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_glass_(window)
> 
> I find Wikipedia useful for finding names for things in other languages.
> 
> If one reads the article above in the available languages;
> German, English, French, Dutch, Polish, Czech, Pashto
> (See the Languages links at the bottom of the left menu.)
> 
> - one can find names for crown glass in these languages.
> 

Obvious! I regularly use this but somehow failed to apply it to the 
present topic! ;-/

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Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 11 Mar 2019 03:30:20
Message: <5c860e8c@news.povray.org>
On 10-3-2019 20:57, MichaelJF wrote:
> Am 08.03.2019 um 08:28 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> On 7-3-2019 16:02, ingo wrote:
>>> in news:5c80dc5f@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>
>>>> I came across some examples of Medieval windows made with the "cives"
>>>> technique ("fenêtre à cives")
>>>>
>>>
>>> OMG, "Buzenscheiben", I've had to recreate and colourise those many 
>>> times
>>> for printing on self adhesive window films.
>>>
>>
>> LOL Indeed, that is where those are mostly found nowadays.
>>
>> To all: What are those windows called in other languages?
>>
> In German, it is Butzenglas, Batzenscheibe, Nabelscheibe or Ochsenauge. 
> I modelled it some years ago with wings 3d, but never posted the code 
> (mesh) and the macros to produce windows from it. If someone is 
> interested, I will clean up the code a little bit and post it.
> 

Interesting! I modelled the glass in Silo and am currently writing 
macros for the different types of windows. I certainly shall continue 
till completion, but I would be curious to compare eventually. So, yes, 
please?

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Thomas


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 11 Mar 2019 07:34:18
Message: <5c8647ba@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote on 07/03/2019 09:54:
> I came across some examples of Medieval windows made with the "cives" 
> technique ("fenêtre à cives") and thought that it would be interesting 
> to experiment a bit with the concept. This is just a test scene, using 
> photons of course. Very promising
> 
> A bit of documentation:
> http://enverreetcontrefil.net/technique-du-vitrail-redige-pour-art-et-histoire/ 
> 
> 
A nice work, Thomas.
Sometimes you find also the circles arranged to fit the available space 
(like these pictures taken near Bolzano in Italy).

Paolo


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 11 Mar 2019 07:47:59
Message: <5c864aef$1@news.povray.org>
On 11-3-2019 12:34, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
> Thomas de Groot wrote on 07/03/2019 09:54:
>> I came across some examples of Medieval windows made with the "cives" 
>> technique ("fenêtre à cives") and thought that it would be interesting 
>> to experiment a bit with the concept. This is just a test scene, using 
>> photons of course. Very promising
>>
>> A bit of documentation:
>> http://enverreetcontrefil.net/technique-du-vitrail-redige-pour-art-et-histoire/ 
>>
>>
> A nice work, Thomas.
> Sometimes you find also the circles arranged to fit the available space 
> (like these pictures taken near Bolzano in Italy).
> 

Yes indeed. I am currently working on these now, also on the variations 
of tints within one window.

It started as a small testing project, just for the fun of it, and 
before I knew, it grew into a full-fledged project. :-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 11 Mar 2019 17:32:19
Message: <5c86d3e3$1@news.povray.org>
Am 11.03.2019 um 08:30 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> On 10-3-2019 20:57, MichaelJF wrote:
>> Am 08.03.2019 um 08:28 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>>> On 7-3-2019 16:02, ingo wrote:
>>>> in news:5c80dc5f@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I came across some examples of Medieval windows made with the "cives"
>>>>> technique ("fenêtre à cives")
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OMG, "Buzenscheiben", I've had to recreate and colourise those many 
>>>> times
>>>> for printing on self adhesive window films.
>>>>
>>>
>>> LOL Indeed, that is where those are mostly found nowadays.
>>>
>>> To all: What are those windows called in other languages?
>>>
>> In German, it is Butzenglas, Batzenscheibe, Nabelscheibe or 
>> Ochsenauge. I modelled it some years ago with wings 3d, but never 
>> posted the code (mesh) and the macros to produce windows from it. If 
>> someone is interested, I will clean up the code a little bit and post it.
>>
> 
> Interesting! I modelled the glass in Silo and am currently writing 
> macros for the different types of windows. I certainly shall continue 
> till completion, but I would be curious to compare eventually. So, yes, 
> please?
> 
Hello Thomas,

I was on an occupational journey and had to congratulate my father to 
his eighty-first birthday today, living at the same location at Essen, 
Germany. I hope I can post the code tomorrow. It is just a mesh and some 
macros to put the tiles into a window with rounded frames and a frame 
all around them to have a window.

Best regards
Michael


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 12 Mar 2019 06:03:59
Message: <5c87840f@news.povray.org>
On 11-3-2019 22:32, MichaelJF wrote:
> Am 11.03.2019 um 08:30 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> On 10-3-2019 20:57, MichaelJF wrote:
>>> Am 08.03.2019 um 08:28 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>>>> On 7-3-2019 16:02, ingo wrote:
>>>>> in news:5c80dc5f@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I came across some examples of Medieval windows made with the "cives"
>>>>>> technique ("fenêtre à cives")
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OMG, "Buzenscheiben", I've had to recreate and colourise those many 
>>>>> times
>>>>> for printing on self adhesive window films.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LOL Indeed, that is where those are mostly found nowadays.
>>>>
>>>> To all: What are those windows called in other languages?
>>>>
>>> In German, it is Butzenglas, Batzenscheibe, Nabelscheibe or 
>>> Ochsenauge. I modelled it some years ago with wings 3d, but never 
>>> posted the code (mesh) and the macros to produce windows from it. If 
>>> someone is interested, I will clean up the code a little bit and post 
>>> it.
>>>
>>
>> Interesting! I modelled the glass in Silo and am currently writing 
>> macros for the different types of windows. I certainly shall continue 
>> till completion, but I would be curious to compare eventually. So, 
>> yes, please?
>>
> Hello Thomas,
> 
> I was on an occupational journey and had to congratulate my father to 
> his eighty-first birthday today, living at the same location at Essen, 
> Germany. I hope I can post the code tomorrow. It is just a mesh and some 
> macros to put the tiles into a window with rounded frames and a frame 
> all around them to have a window.
> 

That is ok, Michael. Happy Birthday to your father! I hope he is in good 
health.

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Thomas


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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 12 Mar 2019 19:05:21
Message: <5c883b31$1@news.povray.org>
Am 12.03.2019 um 11:03 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> On 11-3-2019 22:32, MichaelJF wrote:
>> Am 11.03.2019 um 08:30 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>>> On 10-3-2019 20:57, MichaelJF wrote:
>>>> Am 08.03.2019 um 08:28 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>>>>> On 7-3-2019 16:02, ingo wrote:
>>>>>> in news:5c80dc5f@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I came across some examples of Medieval windows made with the 
>>>>>>> "cives"
>>>>>>> technique ("fenêtre à cives")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OMG, "Buzenscheiben", I've had to recreate and colourise those 
>>>>>> many times
>>>>>> for printing on self adhesive window films.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL Indeed, that is where those are mostly found nowadays.
>>>>>
>>>>> To all: What are those windows called in other languages?
>>>>>
>>>> In German, it is Butzenglas, Batzenscheibe, Nabelscheibe or 
>>>> Ochsenauge. I modelled it some years ago with wings 3d, but never 
>>>> posted the code (mesh) and the macros to produce windows from it. If 
>>>> someone is interested, I will clean up the code a little bit and 
>>>> post it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting! I modelled the glass in Silo and am currently writing 
>>> macros for the different types of windows. I certainly shall continue 
>>> till completion, but I would be curious to compare eventually. So, 
>>> yes, please?
>>>
>> Hello Thomas,
>>
>> I was on an occupational journey and had to congratulate my father to 
>> his eighty-first birthday today, living at the same location at Essen, 
>> Germany. I hope I can post the code tomorrow. It is just a mesh and 
>> some macros to put the tiles into a window with rounded frames and a 
>> frame all around them to have a window.
>>
> 
> That is ok, Michael. Happy Birthday to your father! I hope he is in good 
> health.
> 
Hello Thomas,
you will find the macros now in p.b.s-f. I haven't used them in 
closeups, so the textures could need improvement.

As to my father: He was very happy about my unheralded visit and I would 
be happy to have his health condition if I ever reach his age.

Best regards
Michael


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 13 Mar 2019 07:47:44
Message: <5c88ede0$1@news.povray.org>
This is #2.

Basic frame texture and some small issues (code needs cleaning up).

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Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 13 Mar 2019 07:49:13
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This is #2.

Basic frame texture and some small issues (code needs cleaning up).
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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 13 Mar 2019 14:47:16
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Am 13.03.2019 um 12:49 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> This is #2.
> 
> Basic frame texture and some small issues (code needs cleaning up).
Hello Thomas,

congratulations, you crafted this very well. It's very to close to my 
macros and showing, that I overlooked a small issue. But with sane 
definitions of the width of the wooden frame no one will notice my fault;)

Best regards
Michael


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