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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 7 Mar 2019 08:54:55
Message: <5c80dc5f@news.povray.org>
I came across some examples of Medieval windows made with the "cives" 
technique ("fenêtre à cives") and thought that it would be interesting 
to experiment a bit with the concept. This is just a test scene, using 
photons of course. Very promising

A bit of documentation:
http://enverreetcontrefil.net/technique-du-vitrail-redige-pour-art-et-histoire/

-- 
Thomas


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 7 Mar 2019 15:02:21
Message: <XnsAA0BA327CB7B8seed7@news.povray.org>
in news:5c80dc5f@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:

> I came across some examples of Medieval windows made with the "cives"
> technique ("fenêtre à cives")
> 

OMG, "Buzenscheiben", I've had to recreate and colourise those many times 
for printing on self adhesive window films. 

ingo


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 8 Mar 2019 07:28:09
Message: <5c821989@news.povray.org>
On 7-3-2019 16:02, ingo wrote:
> in news:5c80dc5f@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:
> 
>> I came across some examples of Medieval windows made with the "cives"
>> technique ("fenêtre à cives")
>>
> 
> OMG, "Buzenscheiben", I've had to recreate and colourise those many times
> for printing on self adhesive window films.
> 

LOL Indeed, that is where those are mostly found nowadays.

To all: What are those windows called in other languages?

-- 
Thomas


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 8 Mar 2019 13:56:12
Message: <XnsAA0C97F273E62seed7@news.povray.org>
in news:5c821989@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:

> On 7-3-2019 16:02, ingo wrote:
>> in news:5c80dc5f@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> 
>>> I came across some examples of Medieval windows made with the
>>> "cives" technique ("fenêtre à cives")
>>>
>> 
>> OMG, "Buzenscheiben", I've had to recreate and colourise those many
>> times for printing on self adhesive window films.
>> 
> 
> LOL Indeed, that is where those are mostly found nowadays.
> 
> To all: What are those windows called in other languages?
> 

In dutch, rondglas, maanglas or schijvenglas for the butzen and 
cylinderglas or kroonglas for the method where they first make a cilinder 
and then cut it open.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuDl27MZDnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddA1PiGd8wc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CelmpVdo7Kc

Ingo


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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 10 Mar 2019 19:57:54
Message: <5c856c42$1@news.povray.org>
Am 08.03.2019 um 08:28 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> On 7-3-2019 16:02, ingo wrote:
>> in news:5c80dc5f@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>
>>> I came across some examples of Medieval windows made with the "cives"
>>> technique ("fenêtre à cives")
>>>
>>
>> OMG, "Buzenscheiben", I've had to recreate and colourise those many times
>> for printing on self adhesive window films.
>>
> 
> LOL Indeed, that is where those are mostly found nowadays.
> 
> To all: What are those windows called in other languages?
> 
In German, it is Butzenglas, Batzenscheibe, Nabelscheibe or Ochsenauge. 
I modelled it some years ago with wings 3d, but never posted the code 
(mesh) and the macros to produce windows from it. If someone is 
interested, I will clean up the code a little bit and post it.

Beste regard
Michael


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 10 Mar 2019 23:45:00
Message: <web.5c85a0b070c4ad2d264be49d0@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
.....
> To all: What are those windows called in other languages?

According to Wikipedia its English name is crown glass:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_glass_(window)

I find Wikipedia useful for finding names for things in other languages.

If one reads the article above in the available languages;
German, English, French, Dutch, Polish, Czech, Pashto
(See the Languages links at the bottom of the left menu.)

- one can find names for crown glass in these languages.

--
Tor Olav
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https://github.com/t-o-k/


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 11 Mar 2019 07:26:07
Message: <5c860d8f$1@news.povray.org>
On 11-3-2019 0:42, Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> .....
>> To all: What are those windows called in other languages?
> 
> According to Wikipedia its English name is crown glass:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_glass_(window)
> 
> I find Wikipedia useful for finding names for things in other languages.
> 
> If one reads the article above in the available languages;
> German, English, French, Dutch, Polish, Czech, Pashto
> (See the Languages links at the bottom of the left menu.)
> 
> - one can find names for crown glass in these languages.
> 

Obvious! I regularly use this but somehow failed to apply it to the 
present topic! ;-/

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 11 Mar 2019 07:30:20
Message: <5c860e8c@news.povray.org>
On 10-3-2019 20:57, MichaelJF wrote:
> Am 08.03.2019 um 08:28 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> On 7-3-2019 16:02, ingo wrote:
>>> in news:5c80dc5f@news.povray.org Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>
>>>> I came across some examples of Medieval windows made with the "cives"
>>>> technique ("fenêtre à cives")
>>>>
>>>
>>> OMG, "Buzenscheiben", I've had to recreate and colourise those many 
>>> times
>>> for printing on self adhesive window films.
>>>
>>
>> LOL Indeed, that is where those are mostly found nowadays.
>>
>> To all: What are those windows called in other languages?
>>
> In German, it is Butzenglas, Batzenscheibe, Nabelscheibe or Ochsenauge. 
> I modelled it some years ago with wings 3d, but never posted the code 
> (mesh) and the macros to produce windows from it. If someone is 
> interested, I will clean up the code a little bit and post it.
> 

Interesting! I modelled the glass in Silo and am currently writing 
macros for the different types of windows. I certainly shall continue 
till completion, but I would be curious to compare eventually. So, yes, 
please?

-- 
Thomas


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 11 Mar 2019 11:34:18
Message: <5c8647ba@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote on 07/03/2019 09:54:
> I came across some examples of Medieval windows made with the "cives" 
> technique ("fenêtre à cives") and thought that it would be interesting 
> to experiment a bit with the concept. This is just a test scene, using 
> photons of course. Very promising
> 
> A bit of documentation:
> http://enverreetcontrefil.net/technique-du-vitrail-redige-pour-art-et-histoire/ 
> 
> 
A nice work, Thomas.
Sometimes you find also the circles arranged to fit the available space 
(like these pictures taken near Bolzano in Italy).

Paolo


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Exploring Medieval windows
Date: 11 Mar 2019 11:47:59
Message: <5c864aef$1@news.povray.org>
On 11-3-2019 12:34, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
> Thomas de Groot wrote on 07/03/2019 09:54:
>> I came across some examples of Medieval windows made with the "cives" 
>> technique ("fenêtre à cives") and thought that it would be interesting 
>> to experiment a bit with the concept. This is just a test scene, using 
>> photons of course. Very promising
>>
>> A bit of documentation:
>> http://enverreetcontrefil.net/technique-du-vitrail-redige-pour-art-et-histoire/ 
>>
>>
> A nice work, Thomas.
> Sometimes you find also the circles arranged to fit the available space 
> (like these pictures taken near Bolzano in Italy).
> 

Yes indeed. I am currently working on these now, also on the variations 
of tints within one window.

It started as a small testing project, just for the fun of it, and 
before I knew, it grew into a full-fledged project. :-)

-- 
Thomas


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