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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Rumors (wip)
Date: 14 Jan 2019 07:17:54
Message: <5c3c7df2$1@news.povray.org>
On 14-1-2019 10:29, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
> Thomas de Groot wrote on 10/01/2019 13:36:
>> I am afraid that, somehow, I am responsible for the heavy snowfall in 
>> Europe. Since December, I am working with Gilles Tran's MakeSnow macro 
>> and matters got seriously out of control. However, I am not sorry! :-)
>>
>> This is the state-of-the-art of the scene. It is loosely inspired by 
>> the work of French painter Jean-Pierre Ugarte: 
>> http://ugarte.pagesperso-orange.fr/ .
>>
>> In addition to Gilles Tran, I am indebted to macros by Brandon 
>> (isosurface tree trunks), PM_2Ring (Catenary) and Tim Nikias 
>> (Bsplines), not to mention the usual suspects: Poser, Poseray, Silo, etc.
>>
>> I have seriously reworked Brandon's macro from 2005, and I intend to 
>> make the MakeSnow macro able to write/read the calculated snow data 
>> to/from file.
>>
>> Don't ask about the title's meaning. I don't know. ;-)
>>
>> More to come later. Enjoy and shiver!
>>
> 
> A promising image!
> Interesting also the works of Jean-Pierre Ugarte. Some of those reminded 
> me the lithographs of Antonio Basoli (e.g. 
> http://www.italianways.com/lalfabeto-di-basoli-e-la-storia-infinita-2/).
> 
> Paolo

Thanks Paolo! In turn, Basoli reminds me of Piranesi of course, another 
of my inspiring artists.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: The Rumors (wip)
Date: 16 Jan 2019 04:04:57
Message: <5c3ef3b9$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote on 14/01/2019 13:17:
> On 14-1-2019 10:29, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
>> Thomas de Groot wrote on 10/01/2019 13:36:
>>> I am afraid that, somehow, I am responsible for the heavy snowfall in 
>>> Europe. Since December, I am working with Gilles Tran's MakeSnow 
>>> macro and matters got seriously out of control. However, I am not 
>>> sorry! :-)
>>>
>>> This is the state-of-the-art of the scene. It is loosely inspired by 
>>> the work of French painter Jean-Pierre Ugarte: 
>>> http://ugarte.pagesperso-orange.fr/ .
>>>
>>> In addition to Gilles Tran, I am indebted to macros by Brandon 
>>> (isosurface tree trunks), PM_2Ring (Catenary) and Tim Nikias 
>>> (Bsplines), not to mention the usual suspects: Poser, Poseray, Silo, 
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> I have seriously reworked Brandon's macro from 2005, and I intend to 
>>> make the MakeSnow macro able to write/read the calculated snow data 
>>> to/from file.
>>>
>>> Don't ask about the title's meaning. I don't know. ;-)
>>>
>>> More to come later. Enjoy and shiver!
>>>
>>
>> A promising image!
>> Interesting also the works of Jean-Pierre Ugarte. Some of those 
>> reminded me the lithographs of Antonio Basoli (e.g. 
>> http://www.italianways.com/lalfabeto-di-basoli-e-la-storia-infinita-2/).
>>
>> Paolo
> 
> Thanks Paolo! In turn, Basoli reminds me of Piranesi of course, another 
> of my inspiring artists.
> 
A chain of artists... TDG -> JPU -> AB -> GPB -> Dürer -> Vitruvius...
:D
Paolo


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Rumors (wip)
Date: 16 Jan 2019 06:47:28
Message: <5c3f19d0$1@news.povray.org>
On 16-1-2019 10:04, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
> Thomas de Groot wrote on 14/01/2019 13:17:
>> On 14-1-2019 10:29, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
>>> Thomas de Groot wrote on 10/01/2019 13:36:
>>>> I am afraid that, somehow, I am responsible for the heavy snowfall 
>>>> in Europe. Since December, I am working with Gilles Tran's MakeSnow 
>>>> macro and matters got seriously out of control. However, I am not 
>>>> sorry! :-)
>>>>
>>>> This is the state-of-the-art of the scene. It is loosely inspired by 
>>>> the work of French painter Jean-Pierre Ugarte: 
>>>> http://ugarte.pagesperso-orange.fr/ .
>>>>
>>>> In addition to Gilles Tran, I am indebted to macros by Brandon 
>>>> (isosurface tree trunks), PM_2Ring (Catenary) and Tim Nikias 
>>>> (Bsplines), not to mention the usual suspects: Poser, Poseray, Silo, 
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> I have seriously reworked Brandon's macro from 2005, and I intend to 
>>>> make the MakeSnow macro able to write/read the calculated snow data 
>>>> to/from file.
>>>>
>>>> Don't ask about the title's meaning. I don't know. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> More to come later. Enjoy and shiver!
>>>>
>>>
>>> A promising image!
>>> Interesting also the works of Jean-Pierre Ugarte. Some of those 
>>> reminded me the lithographs of Antonio Basoli (e.g. 
>>> http://www.italianways.com/lalfabeto-di-basoli-e-la-storia-infinita-2/).
>>>
>>> Paolo
>>
>> Thanks Paolo! In turn, Basoli reminds me of Piranesi of course, 
>> another of my inspiring artists.
>>
> A chain of artists... TDG -> JPU -> AB -> GPB -> Dürer -> Vitruvius...
> :D
> Paolo

Quite true indeed!

-- 
Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Rumors (final version)
Date: 19 Feb 2019 07:20:15
Message: <5c6bf47f@news.povray.org>
Time for the final version I guess. I could add/change more but that 
seems a little pointless to me. I am satisfied with this.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Norbert Kern
Subject: Re: The Rumors (final version)
Date: 19 Feb 2019 07:50:00
Message: <web.5c6bfa90ab4f65801fbfafc10@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Time for the final version I guess. I could add/change more but that
> seems a little pointless to me. I am satisfied with this.
>
> --
> Thomas


Good snow. I assume you used Gilles Tran's MakeSnow macro.
How many snow particles did you use?

Norbert


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Rumors (final version)
Date: 20 Feb 2019 02:40:52
Message: <5c6d0484$1@news.povray.org>
On 19-2-2019 13:46, Norbert Kern wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> Time for the final version I guess. I could add/change more but that
>> seems a little pointless to me. I am satisfied with this.
>>
>> --
>> Thomas
> 
> 
> Good snow. I assume you used Gilles Tran's MakeSnow macro.
> How many snow particles did you use?
> 

It is a combination of a layered texture (most of the landscape, 
especially in the background) and Gille Tran's macro where it matters.

The number of particles is variable according to the surfaces exposed. 
So for instance, I added snow to the foreground landscape and that took 
800k particles; the heads got two layers of respectively 15k and 10k 
particles; the fir trees got 50k and the trunks in the foreground got 
two layers of 3k and 5k respectively.

I also used varying values of Size and Thickness.

It was surprisingly easy to work with Gilles' macro (it was, I think, my 
first time) and experimenting with different values for the settings was 
instructive and comprehensible. Parsing and render were pretty fast too, 
with the advantage of faster PCs than when Gilles wrote his macros. :-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: The Rumors (final version)
Date: 20 Feb 2019 04:09:40
Message: <5c6d1954@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote on 19/02/2019 13:20:
> Time for the final version I guess. I could add/change more but that 
> seems a little pointless to me. I am satisfied with this.
> 

A very good image.
With such a subject a black and white render would also be good, like a 
lithograph.

Paolo


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Rumors (final version)
Date: 20 Feb 2019 06:43:32
Message: <5c6d3d64$1@news.povray.org>
On 20-2-2019 10:09, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
> Thomas de Groot wrote on 19/02/2019 13:20:
>> Time for the final version I guess. I could add/change more but that 
>> seems a little pointless to me. I am satisfied with this.
>>
> 
> A very good image.
> With such a subject a black and white render would also be good, like a 
> lithograph.
> 
> Paolo

Thank you Paolo. You are right. I may explore that too and shall keep it 
in mind (I like black and white pictures!).

-- 
Thomas


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From: jr
Subject: Re: The Rumors (final version)
Date: 20 Feb 2019 17:50:01
Message: <web.5c6dd8b3ab4f6580bcd610c90@news.povray.org>
hi,

Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Time for the final version I guess. I could add/change more but that
> seems a little pointless to me. I am satisfied with this.

it is very accomplished, the ladder is real clever, adding .. interest.

also agree that black+white (sepia?) would be worth seeing.

(ought there not be a little snow on top of the truck's spare tyre too?)


regards, jr.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Rumors (final version)
Date: 21 Feb 2019 02:28:53
Message: <5c6e5335$1@news.povray.org>
On 20-2-2019 23:46, jr wrote:
> hi,
> 
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> Time for the final version I guess. I could add/change more but that
>> seems a little pointless to me. I am satisfied with this.
> 
> it is very accomplished, the ladder is real clever, adding .. interest.
> 
> also agree that black+white (sepia?) would be worth seeing.
> 
> (ought there not be a little snow on top of the truck's spare tyre too?)
> 

There is no spare tyre... ;-)

-- 
Thomas


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