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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: Cloud City II
Date: 30 Nov 2017 11:40:04
Message: <web.5a2033812231f8bac437ac910@news.povray.org>
"And" <49341109@ntnu.edu.tw> wrote:
> Media is easy to get not bad result, but still have some limit.
> This time I used the correct scattering color of cloud, and added some emission
> to simulate multiple scattering effect(emission strength should proportion to
> the sun power) , emission color I just guess.
>
> For this cloud size this simulation is not bad.

This looks much better as clouds  :)
I like all of your previous attempts - they are useful for other types of
materials being modeled.   You should save / post the parameters for those
results for future reference.


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From: And
Subject: Re: Cloud City II
Date: 30 Nov 2017 12:10:05
Message: <web.5a203a3c2231f8bad1252d9f0@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 30.11.2017 um 17:14 schrieb And:
>
> > This picture is subsurface material version. When translucency rise. It is not
> >  like cloud enough. I'm not very knowing why. Cause when cloud is not dense it
> > should like be.
>
> My best guess is that it doesn't look anything like clouds because in
> clouds you have a somewhat gradual change in the density of water
> droplets, whereas the subsurface light transport model is designed for
> cases where the density of the scattering agent changes abruptly at a
> well-defined surface.
>
> Directionality of scattering may also play a role (POV-Ray's current
> implementation only supports isotropic scattering), but I don't think it
> matters much in this case.

I can only guess like this


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From: And
Subject: Re: Cloud City II
Date: 30 Nov 2017 12:15:02
Message: <web.5a203b672231f8bad1252d9f0@news.povray.org>
"Bald Eagle" <cre### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> "And" <49341109@ntnu.edu.tw> wrote:
> > Media is easy to get not bad result, but still have some limit.
> > This time I used the correct scattering color of cloud, and added some emission
> > to simulate multiple scattering effect(emission strength should proportion to
> > the sun power) , emission color I just guess.
> >
> > For this cloud size this simulation is not bad.
>
> This looks much better as clouds  :)
> I like all of your previous attempts - they are useful for other types of
> materials being modeled.   You should save / post the parameters for those
> results for future reference.

Sure I may


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From: And
Subject: Re: Cloud City II
Date: 30 Nov 2017 12:20:05
Message: <web.5a203d442231f8bad1252d9f0@news.povray.org>
"And" <49341109@ntnu.edu.tw> wrote:
> Media is easy to get not bad result, but still have some limit.
> This time I used the correct scattering color of cloud, and added some emission
> to simulate multiple scattering effect(emission strength should proportion to
> the sun power) , emission color I just guess.
>
> For this cloud size this simulation is not bad.

#version 3.7;



global_settings{
max_trace_level 3
assumed_gamma 1.0
adc_bailout 0.007
mm_per_unit 1000 //important for subsurface

radiosity{
 pretrace_start 64/image_width
 pretrace_end   4/image_width
 count 60
 nearest_count 6
 error_bound 0.64
 recursion_limit 8
 low_error_factor 0.5
 gray_threshold 0.0
 brightness 1
 media on
}

}

default{
texture{
    pigment {rgb<0.2,0.2,0.2>}
    finish{ambient 0 diffuse 0}
}
}
//---------------------background------------------------
background{rgb <0,0,0>}

//-------------------settings--------------------------------
//--------------------light source-----------------------------




light_source {
<-4, -2.5, 4>*100
color rgb <1.0, 0.88, 0.76>*1.75
parallel
point_at <0.0, 0.0, 0.0>
rotate <0,0,106>
}




sky_sphere{
    pigment {rgb <0.35,0.55,1>*0.6}
}


//------------------------------------------












//My render is z toward sky, xy horizon


camera{
location <0,0,24>+<4, 2.5, -4>*2+<1,0,0>
look_at <0, 0, 10>
right <-4/3,0,0>
sky <0,0,1>
angle 48
}
//----------------------------------------


//----------------ground------------------------
#declare t_soil1=
texture{
    pigment{rgb<0.2,0.164,0.1>*0.8}
    finish{ambient 0 diffuse 1}
}


plane{
<0,0,1>,0
texture{t_soil1}
}









//--------------------cloud----------------------

#include "functions.inc"

#declare f_test =
function(x,y,z) {
0.36*sum(i, 0, 4, pow(abs(f_noise3d(x*pow(2, i)/0.4, y*pow(2, i)/0.4, z*pow(2,
i)/0.4)), 2.5)/pow(2.0, i) )
}



#declare f_cloud_base =
function(x,y,z) {
0.5 - f_test(x,y,z)*3*3*z*exp(-3*z) - 0.32*3*3*z*exp(-3*z)
}


#declare dens_cloud =
density{
    function{0.5 - 0.2*f_cloud_base(x,y,z)}
    color_map{
        [0   rgb 0]
        [0.5 rgb 0]
        [0.6 rgb 1]
        [1   rgb 1]
    }
}






box{
<-2.0, -2.0, 0.0>, <2.0, 2.0, 1.0>
hollow

    material{
        texture{
            pigment{rgbt<0,0,0,1>}
            finish{ambient 0 diffuse 0}
        }
        interior {


            media{
                samples 16
                emission rgb<3.73, 2.92*0.75, 2.78*0.65 >*4.0

                scattering{
                3, rgb< 3.73, 2.92, 2.78 >*8.0
                extinction 0.8
                }
                density {
                dens_cloud
                }
            }
        }
    }
scale <1.6, 1.6, 1.3>
translate <0,0,10>

}















cylinder{
<0,0,-0.01>, <0,0,1.01>, 0.4

    texture{
        pigment{rgb<1,0,0>}
        finish{ambient 0 diffuse 1}
    }
translate <0,0,10>

}


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From: And
Subject: Re: Cloud City II
Date: 30 Nov 2017 12:35:03
Message: <web.5a20406f2231f8bad1252d9f0@news.povray.org>
one of side view


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From: And
Subject: Re: Cloud City II
Date: 30 Nov 2017 12:35:06
Message: <web.5a2040e22231f8bad1252d9f0@news.povray.org>
sunset:

Too late ,I want to sleep


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Cloud City II
Date: 30 Nov 2017 12:53:59
Message: <5a2045b7$1@news.povray.org>
On 30/11/2017 16:35, Bald Eagle wrote:
> "And" <49341109@ntnu.edu.tw> wrote:
>> Then change to media:
> 
> This is a hammer mill pulverizing plastic or mica
> 

It looks more like the foam you get from detergent. Maybe when there has 
been a discharge into a river, to me.

And, keep hold of the code.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Cloud City II
Date: 30 Nov 2017 12:55:21
Message: <5a204609$1@news.povray.org>
On 30/11/2017 16:36, Bald Eagle wrote:
> "And" <49341109@ntnu.edu.tw> wrote:
>> Media is easy to get not bad result, but still have some limit.
>> This time I used the correct scattering color of cloud, and added some emission
>> to simulate multiple scattering effect(emission strength should proportion to
>> the sun power) , emission color I just guess.
>>
>> For this cloud size this simulation is not bad.
> 
> This looks much better as clouds  :)
> I like all of your previous attempts - they are useful for other types of
> materials being modeled.   You should save / post the parameters for those
> results for future reference.
> 

I agree with B.E.


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Cloud City II
Date: 30 Nov 2017 17:56:46
Message: <5a208cae$1@news.povray.org>
I suggest to consider, to add this code to the INSERT options of
POV-Ray. Or, to the code collections on the POV-Ray objects page.
Or both.

And the clouds you all helped to develop in my own scene, should be
added to the POV-Ray objects page, too, ans complete environment
including the haze layers as well.

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http://www.avg.com


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Cloud City II
Date: 30 Nov 2017 17:57:58
Message: <5a208cf6$1@news.povray.org>
On 30.11.2017 00:05, omniverse wrote:
> Sven Littkowski <I### [at] SvenLittkowskiname> wrote:
>> THE PROJECT
>>
>> To develop a scene where tall futuristic skyscrapers rise above cloud
>> level, not necessarily on Earth.
>>
>> PUBLIC DOMAIN
>>
>> I can even imagine, each POV-Ray community member with interest in this
>> project can design the interior of his/her own flying home (a flattened
>> bubble with a diameter of 20 meters) and submit it to this thread as
>> self-sustaining INCLUDE file.
> 
> I think anyone offering help considers their SDL freely given, only nice 
to
> mention if you feel the need. If I'm wrong maybe we will hear differently
.
> 
> Ambitious goal, not sure I could do more but it has potential.
> 
> There could be inherent problems with the realism aspect of the suns and
> atmosphere. I know some people have attempted it in the past with some go
od
> results, but I don't remember how simple time of day or motion changes af
fected
> them. A scene can become unexpectedly different due to even slight change
s of
> camera/light/objects.
> I think of POV-Ray as not being a reality simulator, more of a simulation
 of
> reality. If that makes sense.
> 
> I suppose a good enough facsimile should be possible anyhow, sun orb aura
s and
> all. Once the formulation is found anyway. If the idea is to forego any t
ricks,
> such as halo disc objects, in lieu of pure 'media' it might prove difficu
lt as
> you've no doubt seen already.
> 
> Bob
> 
Wow, looks much better now! Big thanks. I just adapted your code!

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