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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Dhalgren, a collaborative project
Date: 22 Nov 2016 07:30:34
Message: <58343a6a@news.povray.org>
Finally, here it is. We are proud to present to you the result of our 
collaboration on an impressionistic interpretation of Dhalgren , the 
novel by Samuel R. Delany from 1975.

Detailed information about author and novel can be found in Wikipedia. 
However, for a better appreciation of the image, the following short 
description may be helpful.

The Midwestern city of Bellona (typically the name of the Roman goddess 
of war) has been hit by an unspecified event and has been isolated from 
the rest of the world. Strange things happen in the city: the appearance 
of a huge, bloated, sun, or two simultaneous moons in the mostly 
overcast sky. Arson and anarchy reign in Bellona where normal daily life 
has collapsed, and many citizen have left the city over the only bridge 
left open over the nameless river, or are holed up inside their homes. 
All other accesses seem to have been closed down, possibly by the 
National Guards. Meanwhile, gangs roam the streets and the reputation of 
the city attracts drifters from all over the US. One of them is known as 
the kid. He is visible on the right-hand side of the image.

The gangs are motley groups of individuals without any clear purpose 
other than what gangs are normally expected to do. What characterises 
them in Bellona is the use of holographic projections of (mythical) 
animals they call light shields. The dominant gang in Bellona during the 
visit of the kid, are the Scorpions. Three of them are shown on the 
image: Dragon Lady, wearing a hydra light shield, is the leader of an 
affiliated gang; Adam, leaning against the lamppost, with his light 
shield switched off; Baby, usually naked within his griffin light 
shield. The kid himself also has a light shield which represents a 
scorpion. In addition, he is wearing a so-called orchid on his right 
wrist, a dangerous looking contraption of sharp, articulated, blades, 
probably more dangerous to the wearer than to a possible opponent, but 
impressive nonetheless. The scene depicted in the image can be situated 
towards the end of the novel when the kid and the Scorpions leave the 
city of Bellona.

About the cooperation. The building of the scene has been the result of 
close cooperation between three POV-Ray fanatics: Thomas de Groot, 
Stephen McAvoy, and John Guthkelch. It is difficult to point at 
individual contributions as almost all aspects have been proposed, 
discussed, amended, rejected/accepted. Unfortunately, John has not been 
able to participate as often as he wanted because of his illness. His 
contributions, and his relentless drive despite his health, have 
nonetheless been highly appreciated by the other two participants.

-- 
Thomas, Stephen, John

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From: William F Pokorny
Subject: Re: Dhalgren, a collaborative project
Date: 22 Nov 2016 10:00:41
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On 11/22/2016 07:30 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Finally, here it is. We are proud to present to you the result of our
> collaboration on an impressionistic interpretation of Dhalgren , the
> novel by Samuel R. Delany from 1975.
>

Cool. Especially like the atmosphere & how the hologram(s) turned out.

The Kid is missing a shoe... Normally suppose a story there, but 
perhaps not given the book's reputation - ?

Bill P.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Dhalgren, a collaborative project
Date: 23 Nov 2016 02:56:04
Message: <58354b94$1@news.povray.org>
On 22-11-2016 16:00, William F Pokorny wrote:
> On 11/22/2016 07:30 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Finally, here it is. We are proud to present to you the result of our
>> collaboration on an impressionistic interpretation of Dhalgren , the
>> novel by Samuel R. Delany from 1975.
>>
>
> Cool. Especially like the atmosphere & how the hologram(s) turned out.

Thanks indeed Bill. We are rather satisfied ourselves ;-) But seriously, 
it was not an easy business and it took some fine tuning. All those 
different medias did nothing to reduce render time but it was worth the 
while.

>
> The Kid is missing a shoe... Normally suppose a story there, but perhaps
> not given the book's reputation - ?

He is missing a shoe from the start. No explanation from the book itself ;-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Dhalgren, a collaborative project
Date: 23 Nov 2016 04:14:09
Message: <58355de1$1@news.povray.org>
On 11/23/2016 7:55 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 22-11-2016 16:00, William F Pokorny wrote:
>> On 11/22/2016 07:30 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> Finally, here it is. We are proud to present to you the result of our
>>> collaboration on an impressionistic interpretation of Dhalgren , the
>>> novel by Samuel R. Delany from 1975.
>>>
>>
>> Cool. Especially like the atmosphere & how the hologram(s) turned out.
>
> Thanks indeed Bill. We are rather satisfied ourselves ;-) But seriously,
> it was not an easy business and it took some fine tuning. All those
> different medias did nothing to reduce render time but it was worth the
> while.
>

Yes, thanks Bill. It was satisfying when it came together, albeit slowly. :)

>>
>> The Kid is missing a shoe... Normally suppose a story there, but perhaps
>> not given the book's reputation - ?
>
> He is missing a shoe from the start. No explanation from the book itself
> ;-)
>

The author has a few of his characters with one bare foot and maybe a 
long pinkie nail.


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Dhalgren, a collaborative project
Date: 23 Nov 2016 04:45:26
Message: <58356536$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote on 22/11/2016 13:30:
> Finally, here it is. We are proud to present to you the result of our
> collaboration on an impressionistic interpretation of Dhalgren , the
> novel by Samuel R. Delany from 1975.
>
A very complex image!
Paolo


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Dhalgren, a collaborative project
Date: 23 Nov 2016 07:14:38
Message: <5835882e$1@news.povray.org>
On 23-11-2016 10:45, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
> Thomas de Groot wrote on 22/11/2016 13:30:
>> Finally, here it is. We are proud to present to you the result of our
>> collaboration on an impressionistic interpretation of Dhalgren , the
>> novel by Samuel R. Delany from 1975.
>>
> A very complex image!
> Paolo

Yes, Paolo, and a complex novel too. So, in a sense, we tried to do 
justice to it by building a scene where some of the quintessential 
elements of the story are brought together. And of course, we wanted to 
catch the mood at the same time.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Dhalgren, a collaborative project
Date: 23 Nov 2016 08:03:34
Message: <583593a6$1@news.povray.org>
On 11/22/2016 10:00 AM, William F Pokorny wrote:
> On 11/22/2016 07:30 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Finally, here it is. We are proud to present to you the result of our
>> collaboration on an impressionistic interpretation of Dhalgren , the
>> novel by Samuel R. Delany from 1975.
>>
>
> Cool. Especially like the atmosphere

i liked the atmospherics too ... some good eye candy in a couple of 
places. good job guys


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From: And
Subject: Re: Dhalgren, a collaborative project
Date: 12 Dec 2016 07:05:19
Message: <web.584e91f974bf9362b1eb18a80@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Finally, here it is. We are proud to present to you the result of our
> collaboration on an impressionistic interpretation of Dhalgren , the
> novel by Samuel R. Delany from 1975.
>
> Detailed information about author and novel can be found in Wikipedia.
> However, for a better appreciation of the image, the following short
> description may be helpful.
>
> The Midwestern city of Bellona (typically the name of the Roman goddess
> of war) has been hit by an unspecified event and has been isolated from
> the rest of the world. Strange things happen in the city: the appearance
> of a huge, bloated, sun, or two simultaneous moons in the mostly
> overcast sky. Arson and anarchy reign in Bellona where normal daily life
> has collapsed, and many citizen have left the city over the only bridge
> left open over the nameless river, or are holed up inside their homes.
> All other accesses seem to have been closed down, possibly by the
> National Guards. Meanwhile, gangs roam the streets and the reputation of
> the city attracts drifters from all over the US. One of them is known as
> the kid. He is visible on the right-hand side of the image.
>
> The gangs are motley groups of individuals without any clear purpose
> other than what gangs are normally expected to do. What characterises
> them in Bellona is the use of holographic projections of (mythical)
> animals they call light shields. The dominant gang in Bellona during the
> visit of the kid, are the Scorpions. Three of them are shown on the
> image: Dragon Lady, wearing a hydra light shield, is the leader of an
> affiliated gang; Adam, leaning against the lamppost, with his light
> shield switched off; Baby, usually naked within his griffin light
> shield. The kid himself also has a light shield which represents a
> scorpion. In addition, he is wearing a so-called orchid on his right
> wrist, a dangerous looking contraption of sharp, articulated, blades,
> probably more dangerous to the wearer than to a possible opponent, but
> impressive nonetheless. The scene depicted in the image can be situated
> towards the end of the novel when the kid and the Scorpions leave the
> city of Bellona.
>
> About the cooperation. The building of the scene has been the result of
> close cooperation between three POV-Ray fanatics: Thomas de Groot,
> Stephen McAvoy, and John Guthkelch. It is difficult to point at
> individual contributions as almost all aspects have been proposed,
> discussed, amended, rejected/accepted. Unfortunately, John has not been
> able to participate as often as he wanted because of his illness. His
> contributions, and his relentless drive despite his health, have
> nonetheless been highly appreciated by the other two participants.
>
> --
> Thomas, Stephen, John
>
> PS. Original png image converted to jpg with IC Image Viewer.


This one has a special quality.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Dhalgren, a collaborative project
Date: 12 Dec 2016 07:16:31
Message: <584e951f$1@news.povray.org>
On 12-12-2016 13:03, And wrote:

> This one has a special quality.
>
>

Thank you.

-- 
Thomas


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