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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Problem solved! (was Re: Losing the ability to POV...)
Date: 10 Nov 2016 18:40:00
Message: <web.5825050037b7c34782fed3640@news.povray.org>
=?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_=22Yadgar=22_Bleimann?= <yaz### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> ...but then I accidentally deleted all *png files in the POVnroll
> project directory - and among them also the level 1 mosaic, cumbersomely
> screen-copied from the Amiga emulator! So I will not be able to resume
> my work, unless I do it all over again! Perhaps not all - a partial
> version of it is on my friend's harddisk, but I have to phone him to
> e-mail it to me, he does not regularly check his e-mail...

Take backups!  Take backups!  Take frequent backups!

And be sure to back them up to a different device--another hard disk, the cloud,
something.  One POVer did his backups to the same disk, and lost every single
one of his scene files.  All of them.  GONE.

I have had my hard disk crash *twice*.  I'm sold on external backups.

I once accidentally erased my user directory after getting my working
directories mixed up.  I'm sold on external backups.

Can't afford an external hard disk?  Live on sandwiches for a month.  It's worth
it.


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From: omniverse
Subject: Re: Problem solved! (was Re: Losing the ability to POV...)
Date: 10 Nov 2016 19:20:05
Message: <web.58250e1237b7c3479c5d6c810@news.povray.org>
"Cousin Ricky" <rickysttATyahooDOTcom> wrote:
> =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_=22Yadgar=22_Bleimann?= <yaz### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> > ...but then I accidentally deleted all *png files in the POVnroll
> > project directory
>
> Can't afford an external hard disk? Live on sandwiches for a month. It's worth
> it.

Good advice! The cost isn't like it was a decade or more ago.

Was easier before I went exclusively to notebook computers, now I must make the
conscious effort to connect the external drive.

I must have several complete sets of backups, excluding the most recent files.
At least 2 always current, using a couple multi-terabyte-sized external drives.

Maybe a dozen copies of older files on tape (tape drive gone though), CD-R,
DVD-R and HDD. Not very organized, so that can be a problem if I had to resort
to locating something again. I certainly can't claim to be efficient, more like
sloppy in how I do things.

Bob


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Problem solved! (was Re: Losing the ability to POV...)
Date: 11 Nov 2016 03:06:36
Message: <58257c0c$1@news.povray.org>
On 11-11-2016 0:38, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> I once accidentally erased my user directory after getting my working
> directories mixed up.  I'm sold on external backups.
>
> Can't afford an external hard disk?  Live on sandwiches for a month.  It's worth
> it.
>

Absolutely right! Sandwiches and water (not that delicious Cologne beer!)

And use a synchronising program to copy it all neatly. I have been using 
GoodSync for many years.

-- 
Thomas


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Problem solved! (was Re: Losing the ability to POV...)
Date: 13 Nov 2016 16:56:49
Message: <5828e1a1$1@news.povray.org>

> =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_=22Yadgar=22_Bleimann?= <yaz### [at] gmxde> wrote:
>> ...but then I accidentally deleted all *png files in the POVnroll
>> project directory - and among them also the level 1 mosaic, cumbersomely
>> screen-copied from the Amiga emulator! So I will not be able to resume
>> my work, unless I do it all over again! Perhaps not all - a partial
>> version of it is on my friend's harddisk, but I have to phone him to
>> e-mail it to me, he does not regularly check his e-mail...
>
> Take backups!  Take backups!  Take frequent backups!
>
> And be sure to back them up to a different device--another hard disk, the cloud,
> something.  One POVer did his backups to the same disk, and lost every single
> one of his scene files.  All of them.  GONE.
>
> I have had my hard disk crash *twice*.  I'm sold on external backups.
>
> I once accidentally erased my user directory after getting my working
> directories mixed up.  I'm sold on external backups.
>
> Can't afford an external hard disk?  Live on sandwiches for a month.  It's worth
> it.
>
>

A backup to the same drive is NOT a backup at all but a copy, it's just 
a waste of space.

If it's on a single device, it's not backed up.

If it's in a single location, it's not backed up.


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From: Jörg "Yadgar" Bleimann
Subject: Re: Problem solved! (was Re: Losing the ability to POV...)
Date: 13 Nov 2016 20:49:51
Message: <5829183f$1@news.povray.org>
Hi(gh)!

On 11.11.2016 09:06, Thomas de Groot wrote:

> Absolutely right! Sandwiches and water (not that delicious Cologne beer!)

Cologne? Beer?? Delicious??? You got to be kidding!

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar


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From: Jörg "Yadgar" Bleimann
Subject: Re: Problem solved! (was Re: Losing the ability to POV...)
Date: 13 Nov 2016 21:00:24
Message: <58291ab8@news.povray.org>
Hi(gh)!

On 11.11.2016 00:38, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> =?UTF-8?Q?J=c3=b6rg_=22Yadgar=22_Bleimann?= <yaz### [at] gmxde> wrote:
>> ...but then I accidentally deleted all *png files in the POVnroll
>> project directory - and among them also the level 1 mosaic, cumbersomely
>> screen-copied from the Amiga emulator! So I will not be able to resume
>> my work, unless I do it all over again! Perhaps not all - a partial
>> version of it is on my friend's harddisk, but I have to phone him to
>> e-mail it to me, he does not regularly check his e-mail...
>
> Take backups!  Take backups!  Take frequent backups!

Meanwhile, I was able to restore that crucial file, using a free NTFS 
file recovery software... but then I noted that I already had send this 
file as a e-mail attachment to friend, so all that fuss was unnecessary!

So I could continue working on Level 1 of POV'n'Roll... here is what 
I've come up with so far...

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Problem solved! (was Re: Losing the ability to POV...)
Date: 14 Nov 2016 03:09:32
Message: <5829713c$1@news.povray.org>

> Hi(gh)!
>
> On 11.11.2016 09:06, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
>> Absolutely right! Sandwiches and water (not that delicious Cologne beer!)
>
> Cologne? Beer?? Delicious??? You got to be kidding!
>
> See you in Khyberspace!
>
> Yadgar

Oh dear! Is it that bad? Been a long time since I was in Cologne last. ;-)

I did like German beers though (when I used to drink beer) more than 
Dutch ones (with some exceptions)...

-- 
Thomas


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Problem solved! (was Re: Losing the ability to POV...)
Date: 14 Nov 2016 08:43:21
Message: <5829bf79$1@news.povray.org>
Am 14.11.2016 um 09:09 schrieb Thomas de Groot:

>> Hi(gh)!
>>
>> On 11.11.2016 09:06, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>
>>> Absolutely right! Sandwiches and water (not that delicious Cologne
>>> beer!)
>>
>> Cologne? Beer?? Delicious??? You got to be kidding!
>>
>> See you in Khyberspace!
>>
>> Yadgar
> 
> Oh dear! Is it that bad? Been a long time since I was in Cologne last. ;-)
> 
> I did like German beers though (when I used to drink beer) more than
> Dutch ones (with some exceptions)...

Some would say that "Cologne beer" is a contradiction in itself.

I'd disagree, and argue that the contradiction is instead in "delicious
beer".


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Problem solved! (was Re: Losing the ability to POV...)
Date: 15 Nov 2016 03:12:29
Message: <582ac36d$1@news.povray.org>
On 14-11-2016 14:43, clipka wrote:
> Am 14.11.2016 um 09:09 schrieb Thomas de Groot:

>>> Hi(gh)!
>>>
>>> On 11.11.2016 09:06, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>
>>>> Absolutely right! Sandwiches and water (not that delicious Cologne
>>>> beer!)
>>>
>>> Cologne? Beer?? Delicious??? You got to be kidding!
>>>
>>> See you in Khyberspace!
>>>
>>> Yadgar
>>
>> Oh dear! Is it that bad? Been a long time since I was in Cologne last. ;-)
>>
>> I did like German beers though (when I used to drink beer) more than
>> Dutch ones (with some exceptions)...
>
> Some would say that "Cologne beer" is a contradiction in itself.
>
> I'd disagree, and argue that the contradiction is instead in "delicious
> beer".
>

I seem to be out of touch with the real world at large... ;-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Problem solved! (was Re: Losing the ability to POV...)
Date: 15 Nov 2016 17:33:06
Message: <582b8d22$1@news.povray.org>

> Am 14.11.2016 um 09:09 schrieb Thomas de Groot:

>>> Hi(gh)!
>>>
>>> On 11.11.2016 09:06, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>
>>>> Absolutely right! Sandwiches and water (not that delicious Cologne
>>>> beer!)
>>>
>>> Cologne? Beer?? Delicious??? You got to be kidding!
>>>
>>> See you in Khyberspace!
>>>
>>> Yadgar
>>
>> Oh dear! Is it that bad? Been a long time since I was in Cologne last. ;-)
>>
>> I did like German beers though (when I used to drink beer) more than
>> Dutch ones (with some exceptions)...
>
> Some would say that "Cologne beer" is a contradiction in itself.
>
> I'd disagree, and argue that the contradiction is instead in "delicious
> beer".
>

Before my discovery of Belgian beers, "good beer" was uther non-sense 
for me.
I've changed my mind. Main stream Americans beers are awfull, main 
Canadian ones are somewhat better and micro brewries ones are OK to 
really good.


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