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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: RSoCP by UberPOV
Date: 30 Jun 2015 13:59:16
Message: <5592d8f4$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/30/2015 5:09 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 30.06.2015 um 17:29 schrieb Stephen:
>> On 6/30/2015 1:06 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> For instance this.
>>
>> Nice! Now replace the plane with a large torus. :-)
>
> You're not planning to make Tom jump through a hoop, are you? ;)
>
No, I just want a smiley face for a new logo. :)

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     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: RSoCP by UberPOV
Date: 1 Jul 2015 02:55:18
Message: <55938ed6@news.povray.org>
On 30-6-2015 14:15, clipka wrote:
> Am 30.06.2015 um 14:06 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>> On 30-6-2015 8:59, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> On 29-6-2015 15:12, clipka wrote:
>>>> Am 29.06.2015 um 13:35 schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>>>>> Right. This should be it I guess:
>>>>
>>>> Now look at that! I /love/ the material shown on the left!
>>>>
>>>> Now you need to do something about the plane, because it /really/
>>>> breaks
>>>> the scene.
>>>
>>> It does. Maybe I shall do that...
>>
>> For instance this.
>
> Well, it's a bit of an improvement.
> A bit.
>

Well, I am not going any further. It is going beyond my initial 
experimental intentions and I prefer to turn to other things.

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Thomas


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From: And
Subject: Re: RSoCP by UberPOV
Date: 1 Jul 2015 07:05:01
Message: <web.5593c902f71020816c8c73900@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Well, I am not going any further. It is going beyond my initial
> experimental intentions and I prefer to turn to other things.
>
> --
> Thomas

It is good to see that you have improved your technique on this topic.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: RSoCP by UberPOV
Date: 1 Jul 2015 07:15:52
Message: <5593cbe8$1@news.povray.org>
On 1-7-2015 13:03, And wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> Well, I am not going any further. It is going beyond my initial
>> experimental intentions and I prefer to turn to other things.
>>
>> --
>> Thomas
>
> It is good to see that you have improved your technique on this topic.
>
Oh yes! Which does not mean I shall follow it strictly from now  on ;-) 
I always give priority to artistic licence over real world properties.

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Thomas


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From: And
Subject: Re: RSoCP by UberPOV
Date: 1 Jul 2015 21:15:00
Message: <web.55948f69f7102081876de41a0@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> On 1-7-2015 13:03, And wrote:
> > Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> >> Well, I am not going any further. It is going beyond my initial
> >> experimental intentions and I prefer to turn to other things.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thomas
> >
> > It is good to see that you have improved your technique on this topic.
> >
> Oh yes! Which does not mean I shall follow it strictly from now  on ;-)
> I always give priority to artistic licence over real world properties.
>
> --
> Thomas

Hmm, I agree that it is not necessary always following it.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: RSoCP by UberPOV
Date: 2 Jul 2015 02:59:39
Message: <5594e15b$1@news.povray.org>
On 2-7-2015 3:10, And wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> On 1-7-2015 13:03, And wrote:
>>> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>>>> Well, I am not going any further. It is going beyond my initial
>>>> experimental intentions and I prefer to turn to other things.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> It is good to see that you have improved your technique on this topic.
>>>
>> Oh yes! Which does not mean I shall follow it strictly from now  on ;-)
>> I always give priority to artistic licence over real world properties.
>>
>> --
>> Thomas
>
> Hmm, I agree that it is not necessary always following it.
>

I consider ray-tracing like painting: it is a medium for (artistic) 
expression regardless of its life-like possibilities. It also means 
however that one needs to know the rules in order to be able to break 
them ;-)

-- 
Thomas


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From: And
Subject: Re: RSoCP by UberPOV
Date: 2 Jul 2015 10:00:00
Message: <web.55953ffff7102081876de41a0@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> On 2-7-2015 3:10, And wrote:
> > Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> >> On 1-7-2015 13:03, And wrote:
> >>> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> >>>> Well, I am not going any further. It is going beyond my initial
> >>>> experimental intentions and I prefer to turn to other things.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Thomas
> >>>
> >>> It is good to see that you have improved your technique on this topic.
> >>>
> >> Oh yes! Which does not mean I shall follow it strictly from now  on ;-)
> >> I always give priority to artistic licence over real world properties.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thomas
> >
> > Hmm, I agree that it is not necessary always following it.
> >
>
> I consider ray-tracing like painting: it is a medium for (artistic)
> expression regardless of its life-like possibilities. It also means
> however that one needs to know the rules in order to be able to break
> them ;-)
>
> --
> Thomas

Sometimes I have the same idea, but it is come to me that even you don't express
it by a realism lighting, you still do something modeling, arrangement, ... in
an usually framework that express a life-like observation.
There are some other drawing style truly. For me, it is important to have the
ability of rendering realism first.


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From: And
Subject: Re: RSoCP by UberPOV
Date: 2 Jul 2015 10:30:00
Message: <web.55954a73f7102081876de41a0@news.povray.org>
These are some 'other style' pictures I ever enjoyed and downloaded:


http://yurinoboke.blogspot.tw/2011/01/hourou-musuko-wandering-son-episode-1.html

https://desingersinspiration.wordpress.com/tag/pascal-campion/


http://mclelun.deviantart.com/art/football-field-422808127


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: RSoCP by UberPOV
Date: 2 Jul 2015 11:19:53
Message: <55955699$1@news.povray.org>
On 7/2/2015 2:57 PM, And wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> On 2-7-2015 3:10, And wrote:
>>> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>>>> On 1-7-2015 13:03, And wrote:
>>>>> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>>>>>> Well, I am not going any further. It is going beyond my initial
>>>>>> experimental intentions and I prefer to turn to other things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>
>>>>> It is good to see that you have improved your technique on this topic.
>>>>>
>>>> Oh yes! Which does not mean I shall follow it strictly from now  on ;-)
>>>> I always give priority to artistic licence over real world properties.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> Hmm, I agree that it is not necessary always following it.
>>>
>>
>> I consider ray-tracing like painting: it is a medium for (artistic)
>> expression regardless of its life-like possibilities. It also means
>> however that one needs to know the rules in order to be able to break
>> them ;-)
>>
>> --
>> Thomas
>
> Sometimes I have the same idea, but it is come to me that even you don't express
> it by a realism lighting, you still do something modeling, arrangement, ... in
> an usually framework that express a life-like observation.

I think that you are trying to define art. :-)

> There are some other drawing style truly. For me, it is important to have the
> ability of rendering realism first.
>

If you like art. Don't let that become your only goal. If you know what 
I mean. :-)

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: RSoCP by UberPOV
Date: 3 Jul 2015 03:24:24
Message: <559638a8$1@news.povray.org>
On 2-7-2015 16:28, And wrote:
> These are some 'other style' pictures I ever enjoyed and downloaded:
>
>
> http://yurinoboke.blogspot.tw/2011/01/hourou-musuko-wandering-son-episode-1.html

Indeed. I like this style too.

>
> https://desingersinspiration.wordpress.com/tag/pascal-campion/
> http://mclelun.deviantart.com/art/football-field-422808127

I have less affinity with this I'm afraid.

I am rather traditional in my preferences, as far as realism is concerned:
http://www.abcgallery.com/R/repin/repin.html
http://www.janmankes.nl/
http://www.helmantel.nl/

just to mention a few. Alternatively, I like abstract painting very much ;-)

-- 
Thomas


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