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From: William F Pokorny
Subject: A media doodle.
Date: 6 Sep 2013 13:08:56
Message: <522a0c28@news.povray.org>
I've been a couple days chasing a "Maxfield Parrish" type cloudy sky. 
Thought I'd post this failure as I liked it for what it was and thought 
others might too.
Bill P.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: A media doodle.
Date: 7 Sep 2013 02:51:08
Message: <522accdc$1@news.povray.org>
On 6-9-2013 19:08, William F Pokorny wrote:
> I've been a couple days chasing a "Maxfield Parrish" type cloudy sky.
> Thought I'd post this failure as I liked it for what it was and thought
> others might too.
> Bill P.

A star creche. Remember that Hubble photograph?

Thomas


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: A media doodle.
Date: 7 Sep 2013 10:36:23
Message: <522B39E1.7000704@gmail.com>
On 7-9-2013 8:50, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 6-9-2013 19:08, William F Pokorny wrote:
>> I've been a couple days chasing a "Maxfield Parrish" type cloudy sky.
>> Thought I'd post this failure as I liked it for what it was and thought
>> others might too.
>> Bill P.
>
> A star creche. Remember that Hubble photograph?

you mean: http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/pr2005037a/ ?
(supernova remnant)

-- 
Everytime the IT department forbids something that a researcher deems
necessary for her work there will be another hole in the firewall.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: A media doodle.
Date: 7 Sep 2013 10:44:40
Message: <522b3bd8$1@news.povray.org>
On 7-9-2013 16:36, andrel wrote:
> On 7-9-2013 8:50, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 6-9-2013 19:08, William F Pokorny wrote:
>>> I've been a couple days chasing a "Maxfield Parrish" type cloudy sky.
>>> Thought I'd post this failure as I liked it for what it was and thought
>>> others might too.
>>> Bill P.
>>
>> A star creche. Remember that Hubble photograph?
>
> you mean: http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/pr2005037a/ ?
> (supernova remnant)
>
Yes, that is certainly a better example indeed.

I was reminded somehow of the one called "the pillars of creation" and I 
thought seeing something similar happening inside William's cloud too.

Thomas


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From: William F Pokorny
Subject: Re: A media doodle.
Date: 7 Sep 2013 11:11:11
Message: <522b420f$1@news.povray.org>
On 09/07/2013 02:50 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 6-9-2013 19:08, William F Pokorny wrote:
>> I've been a couple days chasing a "Maxfield Parrish" type cloudy sky.
>> Thought I'd post this failure as I liked it for what it was and thought
>> others might too.
>> Bill P.
>
> A star creche. Remember that Hubble photograph?
>
> Thomas
>
Hi Thomas,
I'm not sure which Hubble image you have in mind, however yes, I think 
this would make a good start on such an image.

In fact this rings a bell - reminds me. Indeed, there was a post to 
povray.general early this year by "cubicApocalypse" which was a great 
start on just such an image.

All the working code was posted there along with link to a working 
image. Looking at that code anew, we both are using multiple medias in 
the interior block as part of the approach though different approaches 
otherwise.

Bill P.


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From: William F Pokorny
Subject: Re: A media doodle.
Date: 7 Sep 2013 19:08:08
Message: <522bb1d8@news.povray.org>
On 09/06/2013 01:08 PM, William F Pokorny wrote:
> I've been a couple days chasing a "Maxfield Parrish" type cloudy sky.
...
Flailed and failed at the Parrish clouds again today, but along the way 
found my way to another media image I like.
Bill P.


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From: Robert McGregor
Subject: Re: A media doodle.
Date: 8 Sep 2013 00:50:05
Message: <web.522c01097b110fb491114470@news.povray.org>
William F Pokorny <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> On 09/06/2013 01:08 PM, William F Pokorny wrote:
> > I've been a couple days chasing a "Maxfield Parrish" type cloudy sky.
> ...
> Flailed and failed at the Parrish clouds again today, but along the way
> found my way to another media image I like.
> Bill P.

Fantastically fiery Bill, I really like this!

For years I too have been obsessed with cloud media and various pattern
permutations... it's a digital addiction.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: A media doodle.
Date: 8 Sep 2013 03:13:26
Message: <522c2396$1@news.povray.org>
On 8-9-2013 1:08, William F Pokorny wrote:
> On 09/06/2013 01:08 PM, William F Pokorny wrote:
>> I've been a couple days chasing a "Maxfield Parrish" type cloudy sky.
> ...
> Flailed and failed at the Parrish clouds again today, but along the way
> found my way to another media image I like.
> Bill P.

Another nice one indeed.

Partly, I suppose, the Parrish effect is in the illumination of the 
clouds from outside, like sunset or sunrise? That is different from what 
you try to achieve.

Thomas


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From: William F Pokorny
Subject: Re: A media doodle.
Date: 8 Sep 2013 07:40:40
Message: <522c6238$1@news.povray.org>
On 09/08/2013 12:46 AM, Robert McGregor wrote:
> William F Pokorny <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
>> On 09/06/2013 01:08 PM, William F Pokorny wrote:
>>> I've been a couple days chasing a "Maxfield Parrish" type cloudy sky.
>> ...
>> Flailed and failed at the Parrish clouds again today, but along the way
>> found my way to another media image I like.
>> Bill P.
>
> Fantastically fiery Bill, I really like this!
>
> For years I too have been obsessed with cloud media and various pattern
> permutations... it's a digital addiction.
>
Thanks.

As for the cloud chase, it's all your fault Robert. I resumed this 
probable folly after reading how you did the clouds in your Racetrack 
image at : http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/previouscompetition/stills.html !

Aside: Great image & thank you for the detailed how-accomplished 
description.

I remember you working clouds and read again your newsgroup posts as 
well as posts from others. The chase has been fun & I've learned, but 
ARRGGH!

Bill P.


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From: William F Pokorny
Subject: Re: A media doodle.
Date: 8 Sep 2013 08:02:48
Message: <522c6768@news.povray.org>
On 09/08/2013 03:13 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 8-9-2013 1:08, William F Pokorny wrote:
>> On 09/06/2013 01:08 PM, William F Pokorny wrote:
>>> I've been a couple days chasing a "Maxfield Parrish" type cloudy sky.
>> ...
>> Flailed and failed at the Parrish clouds again today, but along the way
>> found my way to another media image I like.
>> Bill P.
>
> Another nice one indeed.
>
> Partly, I suppose, the Parrish effect is in the illumination of the
> clouds from outside, like sunset or sunrise? That is different from what
> you try to achieve.
>
> Thomas
Thanks.

Yes exactly, like clouds side lit by the sun at sunrise and sunset. My 
understanding is Parrish would lay down layers of color and clear 
lacquer as the base for his paintings. I think he got close to capturing 
the actual color pop and depth I've seen in the sky with a low sun & 
clouds - especially in northern climes in the fall months.

The approach I've been trying is to use actual layers in the media. To 
do something like what he did with paint and lacquer with povray media. 
The media layering more or less works out, but getting the "clouds" & 
clarity is another matter.

This attached image is as close as I have gotten. It is perhaps not to 
bad for color, but I think it too fuzzy, too blurry.
Bill P.


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