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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Elements of Geology
Date: 22 May 2013 10:37:57
Message: <519cd845@news.povray.org>
While working on another - rather conventional - image for the TC-RTC 
Challenge, I am exploring blindly different scenes, using GeoControl for 
generating height_fields and then finding an interesting point of view.

I came, quite by chance, upon this scene. The rock texture is - slightly 
adapted - the one by Sean Day.

Only the eagle is disturbing as there is a problem of scale 
superposition involved.

Still, I thought I would share with you.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 22 May 2013 11:54:37
Message: <519cea3d@news.povray.org>
On 22/05/2013 3:37 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> While working on another - rather conventional - image for the TC-RTC
> Challenge, I am exploring blindly different scenes, using GeoControl for
> generating height_fields and then finding an interesting point of view.
>
> I came, quite by chance, upon this scene. The rock texture is - slightly
> adapted - the one by Sean Day.
>
> Only the eagle is disturbing as there is a problem of scale
> superposition involved.
>
> Still, I thought I would share with you.
>

I am glad that you did it is impressive.
As for scale I don't think that is a problem. Geology is fractal and the 
way that the scale of the image changes, as you focus on the eagle, is 
as real as looking at some photographs in National Geographic.


-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 22 May 2013 15:44:35
Message: <519d2023$1@news.povray.org>

> While working on another - rather conventional - image for the TC-RTC
> Challenge, I am exploring blindly different scenes, using GeoControl for
> generating height_fields and then finding an interesting point of view.
>
> I came, quite by chance, upon this scene. The rock texture is - slightly
> adapted - the one by Sean Day.
>
> Only the eagle is disturbing as there is a problem of scale
> superposition involved.
>
> Still, I thought I would share with you.
>
> Thomas

The eagle gives a sence of scale, BIG! Realy big terrain.



Alain


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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 22 May 2013 17:10:00
Message: <web.519d33fa36300eec51343230@news.povray.org>
Nice scene, Thomas; it shows promise. The cracked appearance of the landscape is
neat. Combined with the gas cloud, one gets the impression that this terrain is
relatively new.

Sam


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From: s day
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 22 May 2013 18:25:00
Message: <web.519d44b936300eec3449e5060@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> Only the eagle is disturbing as there is a problem of scale
> superposition involved.

Hi Thomas,

This is a great image, I like the eagle and think it definitely adds to the
image. Good use of a bit of media as well. Well worth entering it into the
competition.

I had not heard of geocontrol before, it looks pretty good, most of the images
in the gallery would make good entries to the elements of geology round.

Sean


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 23 May 2013 03:01:57
Message: <519dbee5@news.povray.org>
On 23-5-2013 0:20, s.day wrote:
> This is a great image, I like the eagle and think it definitely adds to the
> image. Good use of a bit of media as well. Well worth entering it into the
> competition.

Thanks Sean. I think I shall tweak a couple of little things before 
rendering a bigger image for the Challenge.

>
> I had not heard of geocontrol before, it looks pretty good, most of the images
> in the gallery would make good entries to the elements of geology round.

It is an excellent program. I do not own the latest version which is 
still better, but it makes for very realistic landscapes. It also is 
relatively cheap.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 23 May 2013 03:04:54
Message: <519dbf96$1@news.povray.org>
On 22-5-2013 23:09, Samuel Benge wrote:
> Nice scene, Thomas; it shows promise. The cracked appearance of the landscape is
> neat. Combined with the gas cloud, one gets the impression that this terrain is
> relatively new.

Thanks Sam. I also liked the cracked erosional features. I am still not 
sure about the /type/ of landscape represented. As you say, it could be 
young and volcanic or, as I first thought, a kind of erosional sink 
hole. In both cases, I might need to change the texture ;-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 23 May 2013 03:07:56
Message: <519dc04c$1@news.povray.org>
On 22-5-2013 21:44, Alain wrote:
>
> The eagle gives a sence of scale, BIG! Realy big terrain.
>

Ah! Thanks Alain. That was the intention but I feel as if the relative 
sizes are in conflict. Maybe I need a little feature on the terrain to 
emphasize the contrast and/or a bit of atmospheric media. I shall try 
one or another.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 23 May 2013 03:10:45
Message: <519dc0f5$1@news.povray.org>
On 22-5-2013 17:54, Stephen wrote:
>
> I am glad that you did it is impressive.

Thanks Stephen. It hit me immediately while fussing around with the 
camera position.

> As for scale I don't think that is a problem. Geology is fractal and the
> way that the scale of the image changes, as you focus on the eagle, is
> as real as looking at some photographs in National Geographic.

Yes, I thought so too and NG came to my mind ;-) I probably need to work 
a bit more on the issue though...

Thomas


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Elements of Geology
Date: 23 May 2013 04:17:24
Message: <519dd094$1@news.povray.org>
>Thomas de Groot  on date 22/05/2013 16.37 wrote:
> While working on another - rather conventional - image for the TC-RTC
> Challenge, I am exploring blindly different scenes, using GeoControl for
> generating height_fields and then finding an interesting point of view.
>
> I came, quite by chance, upon this scene. The rock texture is - slightly
> adapted - the one by Sean Day.
>
> Only the eagle is disturbing as there is a problem of scale
> superposition involved.
>
> Still, I thought I would share with you.
>
> Thomas
It is a splendid image, and for the eagle... could be Gwaihir returning 
home after rescuing Gandalf :-P?

GeoControl seems interesting. It's simpler to use respect to Terragen?

Paolo


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