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From: Ger
Subject: To Encore, Making part of an object tranparent
Date: 8 Nov 2012 13:56:18
Message: <509c0052@news.povray.org>
You had something like this in mind?

And yes, it's animatable to some extend.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: To Encore, Making part of an object tranparent
Date: 8 Nov 2012 16:45:49
Message: <509c280d@news.povray.org>
On 08/11/2012 6:56 PM, Ger wrote:
> And yes, it's animatable to some extend.

What does the shadow do? I look forward to seeing your code when you 
tidy it up.

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     Stephen


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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: To Encore, Making part of an object tranparent
Date: 9 Nov 2012 00:30:01
Message: <web.509c941bf594feb2dcf1f95c0@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> On 08/11/2012 6:56 PM, Ger wrote:
> > And yes, it's animatable to some extend.
>
> What does the shadow do? I look forward to seeing your code when you
> tidy it up.
>
> --
> Regards
>      Stephen

I think, the shadow should show the trick.


Best regards,
Michael


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From: Ger
Subject: Re: To Encore, Making part of an object tranparent
Date: 9 Nov 2012 15:44:56
Message: <509d6b48$1@news.povray.org>
MichaelJF wrote:

> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> On 08/11/2012 6:56 PM, Ger wrote:
>> > And yes, it's animatable to some extend.
>>
>> What does the shadow do? I look forward to seeing your code when you
>> tidy it up.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>      Stephen
> 
> I think, the shadow should show the trick.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Michael

Nope, the shadow doesn't give anything away :)

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From: Encore
Subject: Re: To Encore, Making part of an object tranparent
Date: 13 Nov 2012 09:30:00
Message: <web.50a2592cf594feb2d710adaf0@news.povray.org>
"MichaelJF" <mi-### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> > On 08/11/2012 6:56 PM, Ger wrote:
> > > And yes, it's animatable to some extend.
> >
> > What does the shadow do? I look forward to seeing your code when you
> > tidy it up.
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >      Stephen
>
> I think, the shadow should show the trick.
>

Hi guys, yeah that's pretty much what I have in mind.
If you could send me some sort of code to study it that'd be great. I managed to
kind of tidy up the code in the first attempt that was posted in the other
thread, but the cylindrical cube is also amazing. I wouldn't really worry about
the shape though for the moment (even though having the code for this would be
greatly appreciated!)

Can I make a fixed time animation for a start?

There are two thoughts on this:

a) we can animate the light, this way seeing if the light position affects the
illusion (and to what extend)

b) we can animate the object by rotating the camera. This will also require to
move the difference objects accordingly along each axis of camera rotation.

Do you guys have any idea?


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From: Encore
Subject: Re: To Encore, Making part of an object tranparent
Date: 13 Nov 2012 09:35:01
Message: <web.50a25a34f594feb2d710adaf0@news.povray.org>
"Encore" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "MichaelJF" <mi-### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
> > Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> > > On 08/11/2012 6:56 PM, Ger wrote:
> > > > And yes, it's animatable to some extend.
> > >
> > > What does the shadow do? I look forward to seeing your code when you
> > > tidy it up.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards
> > >      Stephen
> >
> > I think, the shadow should show the trick.
> >
>
> Hi guys, yeah that's pretty much what I have in mind.
> If you could send me some sort of code to study it that'd be great. I managed to
> kind of tidy up the code in the first attempt that was posted in the other
> thread, but the cylindrical cube is also amazing. I wouldn't really worry about
> the shape though for the moment (even though having the code for this would be
> greatly appreciated!)
>
> Can I make a fixed time animation for a start?
>
> There are two thoughts on this:
>
> a) we can animate the light, this way seeing if the light position affects the
> illusion (and to what extend)
>
> b) we can animate the object by rotating the camera. This will also require to
> move the difference objects accordingly along each axis of camera rotation.
>
> Do you guys have any idea?

And One more thing:

I think that we do not need to have any surface or background. A black
background is always better for experiments like this and surely, it will not
reveal the illusion that easily.

Regards,

Alex


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From: Encore
Subject: Re: To Encore, Making part of an object tranparent
Date: 13 Nov 2012 10:05:02
Message: <web.50a2607ff594feb2d710adaf0@news.povray.org>
> And One more thing:
>
> I think that we do not need to have any surface or background. A black
> background is always better for experiments like this and surely, it will not
> reveal the illusion that easily.
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>
Hi guys,

I figured a way to animate it for a fixed period, I put the line

rotate<0,-360*(clock+0.00),0>

in my pov object and then I created a .ini file with the following code inside:

; POV-Ray animation ini file
Antialias=Off
Antialias_Threshold=0.1
Antialias_Depth=2

Input_File_Name="transpAttempt1.pov"

Initial_Frame=1
Final_Frame=300
Initial_Clock=0
Final_Clock=1

Cyclic_Animation=on
Pause_when_Done=off

This rotates the object of course but the thing is that the "invisible" boxes
should move respectively. That's where I'm stuck at the moment.


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From: Ger
Subject: Re: To Encore, Making part of an object tranparent
Date: 13 Nov 2012 12:13:18
Message: <50a27fae$1@news.povray.org>
Encore wrote:

> "MichaelJF" <mi-### [at] t-onlinede> wrote:
>> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> > On 08/11/2012 6:56 PM, Ger wrote:
>> > > And yes, it's animatable to some extend.
>> >
>> > What does the shadow do? I look forward to seeing your code when you
>> > tidy it up.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards
>> >      Stephen
>>
>> I think, the shadow should show the trick.
>>
> 
> Hi guys, yeah that's pretty much what I have in mind.
> If you could send me some sort of code to study it that'd be great. I
> managed to kind of tidy up the code in the first attempt that was posted
> in the other thread, but the cylindrical cube is also amazing. I wouldn't
> really worry about the shape though for the moment (even though having the
> code for this would be greatly appreciated!)
> 
> Can I make a fixed time animation for a start?
> 
> There are two thoughts on this:
> 
> a) we can animate the light, this way seeing if the light position affects
> the illusion (and to what extend)
> 
> b) we can animate the object by rotating the camera. This will also
> require to move the difference objects accordingly along each axis of
> camera rotation.
> 
> Do you guys have any idea?

Have you checked povray.binaries.animations?
Have you checked povray.text.scene-files?

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From: Encore
Subject: Re: To Encore, Making part of an object tranparent
Date: 13 Nov 2012 12:45:01
Message: <web.50a2868bf594feb2d710adaf0@news.povray.org>
> Have you checked povray.binaries.animations?
> Have you checked povray.text.scene-files?
>
> --
> Ger

This looks great, I will play around with the camera angle to see how this works
exactly,  there seems to be many things I need to study here.
But still, how am I achieving the animation with such a file? This is a pov file
after all, do I need to make an .ini file too?

Thanks,

Alex


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: To Encore, Making part of an object tranparent
Date: 13 Nov 2012 14:02:15
Message: <50a29937@news.povray.org>
On 13/11/2012 5:42 PM, Encore wrote:
> This looks great, I will play around with the camera angle to see how this works
> exactly,  there seems to be many things I need to study here.

This is true for all of us. :-)

> But still, how am I achieving the animation with such a file? This is a pov file
> after all, do I need to make an .ini file too?

No you can use toolbar command-line.
See help 1.4.2.2 Toolbar Command Line


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     Stephen


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