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From: Tail Kinker
Subject: Klingon Raptor
Date: 13 Aug 2012 01:20:40
Message: <50288ea8@news.povray.org>
Tried this ship a while ago, and I was unimpressed with my results. 
Here's another take.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Klingon Raptor
Date: 13 Aug 2012 02:43:10
Message: <5028a1fe$1@news.povray.org>
On 13-8-2012 7:20, Tail Kinker wrote:
> Tried this ship a while ago, and I was unimpressed with my results.
> Here's another take.

Yes, but a bit dark: outer space far from any star. Let it be lit up by 
a sun.

Thomas


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From: Tail Kinker
Subject: Re: Klingon Raptor
Date: 13 Aug 2012 08:06:47
Message: <5028edd7$1@news.povray.org>
On 12-08-13 02:43 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 13-8-2012 7:20, Tail Kinker wrote:
>> Tried this ship a while ago, and I was unimpressed with my results.
>> Here's another take.
>
> Yes, but a bit dark: outer space far from any star. Let it be lit up by
> a sun.
>
> Thomas
>
There were two light sources in the scene.  The ship is simply quite 
dark.  I should probably brighten it up.


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From: MichaelJF
Subject: Re: Klingon Raptor
Date: 13 Aug 2012 14:00:01
Message: <web.5029405fead59c7b39c538f10@news.povray.org>
Tail Kinker <the### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> On 12-08-13 02:43 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> > On 13-8-2012 7:20, Tail Kinker wrote:
> >> Tried this ship a while ago, and I was unimpressed with my results.
> >> Here's another take.
> >
> > Yes, but a bit dark: outer space far from any star. Let it be lit up by
> > a sun.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> There were two light sources in the scene.  The ship is simply quite
> dark.  I should probably brighten it up.

I think, this would be a good idea. As I remember this bird of prey in the
series it is much brighter. The other way is to light up the background with the
orion nebula for example.

Best regards,
Michael


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Klingon Raptor
Date: 14 Aug 2012 03:51:41
Message: <502a038d$1@news.povray.org>
On 13-8-2012 14:06, Tail Kinker wrote:

> There were two light sources in the scene.  The ship is simply quite
> dark.  I should probably brighten it up.

The image makes me musing about how an object would look like in deep 
space, far from any star. The views like Startrek and such are probably 
frankly unrealistic. A starry background would mark the silhouette, but 
I wonder how bright would be a realistic illumination, independently of 
the /brightness/ of the object itself...

Thomas


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Klingon Raptor
Date: 14 Aug 2012 05:44:21
Message: <502a1df5$1@news.povray.org>
Am 14.08.2012 09:51, schrieb Thomas de Groot:
> On 13-8-2012 14:06, Tail Kinker wrote:
>
>> There were two light sources in the scene.  The ship is simply quite
>> dark.  I should probably brighten it up.
>
> The image makes me musing about how an object would look like in deep
> space, far from any star. The views like Startrek and such are probably
> frankly unrealistic. A starry background would mark the silhouette, but
> I wonder how bright would be a realistic illumination, independently of
> the /brightness/ of the object itself...

It's actually pretty easy to simulate: Just downsample a HDR star 
background into a single pixel (make sure to use linear math, i.e. at a 
gamma of 1.0) - that's the colour a perfectly white convex object (e.g. 
a spectralon sphere) would have.

In other words: It would appear somewhere close to pitch black.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Klingon Raptor
Date: 14 Aug 2012 07:00:57
Message: <502a2fe9@news.povray.org>
On 14-8-2012 11:44, clipka wrote:
> In other words: It would appear somewhere close to pitch black.

Yes, I reached the same conclusion by day dreaming ;-)

So, the raptor is pretty well illuminated for deep space...

Thomas


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: Klingon Raptor
Date: 14 Aug 2012 15:13:15
Message: <502aa34b$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:

> The views like Startrek and such are probably frankly unrealistic.

Nerd Zen: If a starship moves through deep space, with
no one there to see it, does it have a brightness?


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Klingon Raptor
Date: 14 Aug 2012 15:22:51
Message: <502aa58b$1@news.povray.org>
On 14/08/2012 8:13 PM, Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
>> The views like Startrek and such are probably frankly unrealistic.
>
> Nerd Zen: If a starship moves through deep space, with
> no one there to see it, does it have a brightness?

No but it would be as loud as a hand clap.
I think.
:-)

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Klingon Raptor
Date: 15 Aug 2012 02:50:28
Message: <502b46b4@news.povray.org>
On 14-8-2012 21:22, Stephen wrote:
> On 14/08/2012 8:13 PM, Christian Froeschlin wrote:
>> Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>
>>> The views like Startrek and such are probably frankly unrealistic.
>>
>> Nerd Zen: If a starship moves through deep space, with
>> no one there to see it, does it have a brightness?
>
> No but it would be as loud as a hand clap.
> I think.
> :-)
>

Satori!

Thomas


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