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The model of a corinthian capital is still in progress and not yet ready
to stand a closeup look, but it took a lot to even get to a first stage
of completeness.
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msn com> schreef in bericht
news:48b8b56f@news.povray.org...
> The model of a corinthian capital is still in progress and not yet ready
> to stand a closeup look, but it took a lot to even get to a first stage
> of completeness.
>
That is certainly excellent progress already. I have avoided corinthian
capitals until now in view of the work implied, so I am impressed.
Thomas
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
> "Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> schreef in bericht
> news:48b8b56f@news.povray.org...
>
>>The model of a corinthian capital is still in progress and not yet ready
>>to stand a closeup look, but it took a lot to even get to a first stage
>>of completeness.
>>
>
> That is certainly excellent progress already. I have avoided corinthian
> capitals until now in view of the work implied, so I am impressed.
>
> Thomas
>
>
Human features aside, it is really quite a vexing challenge. The steep
curves and grooves of the acanthus shoots the poly count up with so
little to show for it and the model gets heavy quickly.
I thought also that it would be a lot of work but only a lot of work. I
didn't expect to have my ingenuity so thoroughly challenged with the
complex curves in space, the balance of positive and negative space, and
the interaction of natural and geometric elements.
I think I will have to spit my efforts in two directions, one a very
high-poly 'natural' version, breaking the features into separate files
and perhaps even using POV looping to assemble the model at rendertime,
and the other a low-poly, very stylized version. My attempt to
comprimise the two just doesn't seem to work.
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On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:11:00 -0400, Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
>My attempt to comprimise the two just doesn't seem to work.
You are too hard on yourself, Jim. That looks very good. Of course a low poly
version for distance shots is a good idea.
--
Regards
Stephen
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> schreef in bericht
news:48b96322@news.povray.org...
> Human features aside, it is really quite a vexing challenge. The steep
> curves and grooves of the acanthus shoots the poly count up with so
> little to show for it and the model gets heavy quickly.
>
> I thought also that it would be a lot of work but only a lot of work. I
> didn't expect to have my ingenuity so thoroughly challenged with the
> complex curves in space, the balance of positive and negative space, and
> the interaction of natural and geometric elements.
>
> I think I will have to spit my efforts in two directions, one a very
> high-poly 'natural' version, breaking the features into separate files
> and perhaps even using POV looping to assemble the model at rendertime,
> and the other a low-poly, very stylized version. My attempt to
> comprimise the two just doesn't seem to work.
>
Seeing this close-up, I am even more impressed, Jim! This is an excellent
job indeed. I am quite sure that I would not have gone beyond the low-poly
version myself... :-(
Thomas
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Stephen wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:11:00 -0400, Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
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>>My attempt to comprimise the two just doesn't seem to work.
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>
> You are too hard on yourself, Jim. That looks very good. Of course a low poly
> version for distance shots is a good idea.
And as something that could be 'weathered'
Thankyou for the encouragement! Perhaps there are elements here that
are salvageable :)
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
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> Seeing this close-up, I am even more impressed, Jim! This is an excellent
> job indeed. I am quite sure that I would not have gone beyond the low-poly
> version myself... :-(
>
Thanks for the encouragement which I seem to be in need of these days.
There are some pretty impressive models out there though they have poly
counts 3-5 times what mine is. But it is really about observation of
the subject and I have literally gone back to the drawing board to try
and take this to the next level.
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 07:44:46 -0400, Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
>> You are too hard on yourself, Jim. That looks very good. Of course a low poly
>> version for distance shots is a good idea.
>
>And as something that could be 'weathered'
>
That's true, you don't want to weather something with so much fine detail. Like
putting ketchup on a filet steak. Oops! I forgot where you live :)
>Thankyou for the encouragement! Perhaps there are elements here that
>are salvageable :)
Aunt Aida! I'd be more than happy with what you've done already. I think that
they would look great a part of the back/midground of your bistro. In fact I can
see (in my minds eye) the tearoom at the museums of Heraklion or Phaistos.
--
Regards
Stephen
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Stephen wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 07:44:46 -0400, Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom>
wrote:
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>
>>> You are too hard on yourself, Jim. That looks very good. Of course
a low poly
>>> version for distance shots is a good idea.
>>
>>
>> And as something that could be 'weathered'
>>
>
>
> That's true, you don't want to weather something with so much fine
detail. Like
> putting ketchup on a filet steak. Oops! I forgot where you live :)
>
LOL, but I'm Canadian. Couldn't save the children though. Of course my
parents put worcestershire sauce on every damned thing: eggs, steak,
doesn't matter.
>
>> Thankyou for the encouragement! Perhaps there are elements here
that are salvageable :)
>
>
>
> Aunt Aida! I'd be more than happy with what you've done already. I
think that
> they would look great a part of the back/midground of your bistro. In
fact I can
> see (in my minds eye) the tearoom at the museums of Heraklion or
Phaistos.
It's mostly the acanthus that I am unhappy with.
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:25:35 -0400, Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
>Like putting ketchup on a filet steak. Oops! I forgot where you live :)
> >
>
>LOL, but I'm Canadian. Couldn't save the children though. Of course my
>parents put worcestershire sauce on every damned thing: eggs, steak,
>doesn't matter.
I know, you know :) That's why I said "where you live", you know :)
>
>
>It's mostly the acanthus that I am unhappy with.
Uncle Stevie says that you are too close to the problem. The fiddly bits look
almost perfect to me (at least from the image you posted). It might show what
you mean if you posted a larger image with a coloured background. What I see is
a very detailed capital with good acanthus leaves and scrolls that are not too
sharp. I'd leave it as it is and not get hung up on perfecting it.
BTW what is the rendering time?
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Regards
Stephen
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