> it reminds me of one of your early scenes:  bodega... :)

   Could be because both use only one golden light? ;)

   BTW, next on my "remake" list is a "wine cellar" scene with these barrels 
and a wider view of the cellar, similar as how Jhu did recently.

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> I like the textures and the lighting, but I'm not sure about the 
> composition.  Imho there are to many vertically aligned objects: the candle, 
> the bottle and the vase.

   Yes, there is something disturbing about it... but I'm not at all a 
conscious composer: I usually do trial&error for the composition. In this 
case I didn't finish yet this part... and here you suggestions can be of 
great help, thanks.

> I'm no expert in composition, but this is how I would do it: I would use the 
> bottle as a candle-holder (with some dripped wax along the sides, 

   Yes, I was already thinking on something like this... but on the other 
hand I liked the idea of having a bottle with wine still in it. Perhaps I 
can have two bottles, one as candle-holder and other with wine to drink.

   Indeed, I also toyed the idea of making a more general candle macro which 
accepts an object as parameter, to make the dripping fall over it... but in 
my head it seemed a too complex use of trace(), and I wanted to just make a 
quick scene to get ride of that lack of inspiration.

> keep the glass, the vase and the peaches (they are peaches, right? well, 
 > they look like peaches :)) where they're now,

   I'm glad it was clear they were peaches... I didn't mention it on 
purpose, to see if someone asked "what the hell is that fruit?". But seems 
it is at least recognizable as a peach thanks to the aoi pattern.

> and add something metal lying on the 
> table in between the bottle and the vase, not sure what though (maybe the 
> current candle-holder (what's the name anyway? :)), but lying down?)

   This is indeed a great idea... as if the beautiful candle holder was 
discarded for being too nice, and replaced for a more rustic holder instead. 
  It is worth a try... ;)

> of course you'd lose the interesting caustics :(

   Not necessarily... I can have two bottles! :)

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Jaime

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> Nice!  The peach fuzz is perfect, and the lighting has just the right amount of
> dim and mysterious!

   Thanks! The fuzz is a simple aoi texture from withe to orange, with a bit 
of ambient (0.1) and a granite micro-normal. For the lighting I had to use 
two white boxes at the sides, out of the camera view, to reflect some of the 
radiosity back... otherwise the scene was too dark.

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Jaime

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> Hmmm... Love those textures!

   Thanks!

> I partly agree with Zeger's comment on the composition. I think candle and 
> bottle are too close together somehow, and maybe you could use a portrait 
> format for this image.

   Yes, I must try the portrait format... seems like it's crying for it, now 
that you mention it. Thanks!

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"Jaime Vives Piqueres" <jai### [at] ignoranciaorg> schreef in bericht 
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>
>   Indeed, I also toyed the idea of making a more general candle macro 
> which accepts an object as parameter, to make the dripping fall over it... 
> but in my head it seemed a too complex use of trace(), and I wanted to 
> just make a quick scene to get ride of that lack of inspiration.
>

Jim Charter did something very convincing in this direction in one of his 
African ritualistic objects.

Thomas

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Jaime Vives Piqueres napsal(a):

>> Nice!  The peach fuzz is perfect, and the lighting has just the right 
>> amount of
>> dim and mysterious!
> 
>   Thanks! The fuzz is a simple aoi texture from withe to orange, with a 
> bit of ambient (0.1) and a granite micro-normal. For the lighting I had 
> to use two white boxes at the sides, out of the camera view, to reflect 
> some of the radiosity back... otherwise the scene was too dark.
> 
> -- 
> Jaime
maybe you could try to use a tone mapping feature in megapov.

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Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:

>> it reminds me of one of your early scenes:  bodega... :)
> 
>   Could be because both use only one golden light? ;)

well, actually since you posted the image here, I didn't even go to your 
  site to check it out. :)

But I was sure I've seen that botijo before.  So, that's it:  this is a 
blend of your old botijo SUMMER entry in the IRTC and bodegon.

BTW, perhaps that weird caustic is caused by photons going through the 
candle's wax?

>   BTW, next on my "remake" list is a "wine cellar" scene with these 
> barrels and a wider view of the cellar, similar as how Jhu did recently.

good!  POV-Ray and still life seem to get pretty nicely along.

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"Jaime Vives Piqueres" <jai### [at] ignoranciaorg> wrote in message 
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> I'm back at regular poving... not because the inspiration suddenly 
> returned,
> but because I'm more determined to get back anyhow. As someone said, the
> inspiration needs to find you working when it returns...
>

Very nice!  Keep in mind that you inspire a lot of us, too.  I'm glad to see 
you're poving again.  :-)

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Among other things, Jaime Vives Piqueres saw fit to write:

> As someone
> said, the inspiration needs to find you working when it returns...

I heard that on the radio just yesterday, they said it was Picasso who said
that ;)

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Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> I like the textures and the lighting, but I'm not sure about the 
> composition.  Imho there are to many vertically aligned objects: the candle, 
> the bottle and the vase.

What strikes me as more of a problems is a combination of the following:

1. We have three tall objects that are almost exactly the same height.
2. The tall objects are lined up in a perfect row.
3. We have three short objects almost the same size.
4. The short objects are lined up in a perfect row.

We need more variety, actually. Move a few objects forward or backward 
to break up the lines, and give the scene more depth.

I take that back--the urn is farther back than the bottle and candle. 
However, it doesn't *feel* like it is--the top is lined up with the top 
of the bottle too well.

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And the Format source code tells me that *really* the indicator of an 
error is whether the index has changed value or not. If it has *not* 
changed value, then some of the Format class' innards assume that since 
parsing didn't happen, an error must have occurred. (Pause for 
Buddhist-like contemplation of this leap of logic and faith.)
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