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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Eavesdropping - final [~110kB]
Date: 28 Aug 2007 09:59:08
Message: <46d42a2c@news.povray.org>
This is my final render of the Eavesdropping scene. Radiosity is used, as 
well as Lightsys, and a number of things have been changed since the last 
wip. I rendered is two passes. For the second one, I subdivided the image in 
twenty tiles of 100x400 pixels and rendered those separately (render time 
for each between 1 and 2 hours) and reassembled the image gradually. The 
only reason I did this was to use my PC more efficiently and not have to 
reparse the whole image each time after I would restart the render.
This final version could probably use a somewhat finer aa and radiosity 
settings. However, I am content with the image as is and want to go on with 
other scenes.

Nonetheless, comments are always welcome of course!

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Eavesdropping - final [~110kB]
Date: 28 Aug 2007 11:00:00
Message: <web.46d4382d8fd31a74c4e49fa40@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
> However, I am content with the image as is and want to go on with
> other scenes.
>

I would be content if I had rendered this too. :-)

It is really good and I like where you have put Cathy and her wee brother.
They now add to the scene rather than distract.

Stephen


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Eavesdropping - final [~110kB]
Date: 28 Aug 2007 11:16:08
Message: <46d43c38$1@news.povray.org>
Very good work, I specially like everything... :)

BTW, I'm really waiting for your next scene!

--
Jaime


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From: M a r c
Subject: Re: Eavesdropping - final [~110kB]
Date: 28 Aug 2007 11:43:49
Message: <46d442b5$1@news.povray.org>

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>
> Nonetheless, comments are always welcome of course!
>
Astounding!
Now you're done with the cover, you just have to write the novel ;-)

Marc


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Eavesdropping - final [~110kB]
Date: 28 Aug 2007 13:13:48
Message: <46d457cc@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote in message 
news:46d42a2c@news.povray.org...
> This is my final render of the Eavesdropping scene. Radiosity is used, as 
> well as Lightsys, and a number of things have been changed since the last 
> wip. I rendered is two passes. For the second one, I subdivided the image 
> in twenty tiles of 100x400 pixels and rendered those separately (render 
> time for each between 1 and 2 hours) and reassembled the image gradually. 
> The only reason I did this was to use my PC more efficiently and not have 
> to reparse the whole image each time after I would restart the render.
> This final version could probably use a somewhat finer aa and radiosity 
> settings. However, I am content with the image as is and want to go on 
> with other scenes.

I really must explore lightsys as I haven't done as well with lighting as 
I'd like. I've come to realize that proper lighting is probably the biggest 
contributor to overall scene quality. You've done a fantastic job! I 
especially like how some of the objects and people are partly in light and 
partly in shadow.

Jim


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From: Grassblade
Subject: Re: Eavesdropping - final [~110kB]
Date: 28 Aug 2007 16:55:00
Message: <web.46d48ae38fd31a74eb7721c00@news.povray.org>
It's a great scene, congratulations!!!

The column shadow that slashes across the middle of the screen has still
edges that are blurrier than the others. ;-)


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From: Janet
Subject: Re: Eavesdropping - final [~110kB]
Date: 28 Aug 2007 23:15:00
Message: <web.46d4e4788fd31a74591136770@news.povray.org>
It looks fantastic Thomas! I think the lighting is really great on this one.
And a very nice job on all those clothes. :)

Janet


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Eavesdropping - final [~110kB]
Date: 29 Aug 2007 03:52:00
Message: <46d525a0@news.povray.org>
"Grassblade" <nomail@nomail> schreef in bericht 
news:web.46d48ae38fd31a74eb7721c00@news.povray.org...
> It's a great scene, congratulations!!!

Thank you!!
>
> The column shadow that slashes across the middle of the screen has still
> edges that are blurrier than the others. ;-)

That is also what you see in RL. Look at the shadow of a tree in sunshine: 
the shadow is sharpest at the base of the tree and gets more diffuse towards 
the end of the shadow.
In this image there is an interplay between soft shadows (from more distant 
columns) and - for instance - the sharp shadow of the package in the middle 
ground.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Eavesdropping - final [~110kB]
Date: 29 Aug 2007 04:01:22
Message: <46d527d2$1@news.povray.org>
"Janet" <par### [at] attnet> schreef in bericht 
news:web.46d4e4788fd31a74591136770@news.povray.org...
> It looks fantastic Thomas! I think the lighting is really great on this 
> one.
> And a very nice job on all those clothes. :)
>
Thank you Janet!
An interesting point with dynamic clothes is that you can use them 
indiscriminately (almost) with different figures with different morphologies 
and with minimal effort. So, the same shalwar (trousers) is used for 
Iskander hiding behind the column, Adamastor talking to the Rais, and the 
boy half hid behind the wall. That could not be done as easily with 
conforming clothes I think. Only for the Rais, who is suffering from a bit 
of obesity, did I make a different garment  :-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Eavesdropping - final [~110kB]
Date: 29 Aug 2007 04:09:24
Message: <46d529b4$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] hotmailcom> schreef in bericht 
news:46d457cc@news.povray.org...
>
> I really must explore lightsys as I haven't done as well with lighting as 
> I'd like. I've come to realize that proper lighting is probably the 
> biggest contributor to overall scene quality. You've done a fantastic job! 
> I especially like how some of the objects and people are partly in light 
> and partly in shadow.
>

Thank you indeed :-)

Yes, lighting is extremely important and, deriving from that, the way 
objects and figures interact with the light. Sometimes it comes easily, but 
generally I spend a lot of time to arrange things to my liking. In this 
particular case, I believe the lighting contributes a lot to the dramatic 
effect. I have been a fanatic amateur Black/White photographer for many 
years in the past and it learned me a lot about light.

Thomas


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