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From: Rune
Subject: Flower and Metal WIP3
Date: 28 Jul 2007 19:13:58
Message: <46abcdb6@news.povray.org>
Just an update.

I got the normals issue on the stem fixed (related to my post about "problem 
with normals and stretched uv maps") and I've dropped using subsurface 
scattering.

After putting in a drop shadow on the background I've been playing around 
with the stem color and found, surprisingly, that I prefer the stems 
non-transparent and colored after all. The saturated brown creates a nice 
contrast to the gray shades and doesn't hog all the focus the way I had 
thought.

I've attached both the top image at 100dpi and an image with the overall 
composition of the 6 images.

I need to fix a few things still. One major question I haven't decided on 
yet is - should the stems have some kind of leaves here and there...?

Rune
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From: Slime
Subject: Re: Flower and Metal WIP3
Date: 28 Jul 2007 19:36:59
Message: <46abd31b@news.povray.org>
Oh, wow. This will be really cool if you actually render all 6 images, frame
them, and hang them on the wall in the right places.

The brown stems make me think the flowers are unhealthy.

 - Slime
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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Flower and Metal WIP3
Date: 28 Jul 2007 20:18:12
Message: <46abdcc4@news.povray.org>
Slime wrote:
> Oh, wow. This will be really cool if you actually render all 6
> images, frame them, and hang them on the wall in the right places.

That's the idea. :)

> The brown stems make me think the flowers are unhealthy.

Oh that's not good. I suppose it does look a bit that way... But I need a 
color that's in the brown/red/orange range of hues. I'll experiment a bit 
more.

Rune
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From: Ger
Subject: Re: Flower and Metal WIP3
Date: 29 Jul 2007 01:06:58
Message: <46ac2071@news.povray.org>
Rune wrote:

> Just an update.
> 
> I got the normals issue on the stem fixed (related to my post about
> "problem with normals and stretched uv maps") and I've dropped using
> subsurface scattering.
> 
> After putting in a drop shadow on the background I've been playing around
> with the stem color and found, surprisingly, that I prefer the stems
> non-transparent and colored after all. The saturated brown creates a nice
> contrast to the gray shades and doesn't hog all the focus the way I had
> thought.
> 
> I've attached both the top image at 100dpi and an image with the overall
> composition of the 6 images.
> 
> I need to fix a few things still. One major question I haven't decided on
> yet is - should the stems have some kind of leaves here and there...?
> 
> Rune

I love the overall composition, really well done. 
Having been a professional welder, those welds look stunningly real.
I do have a little iffi about how the metal looks. If it's new it's more
shiny, if it's old it's looks more "gritty". The welds suggest it's
aluminum and then the surface should be a duller gray-ish gritty surface.
The flowers...DNTA (Do Not Touch Anymore) simply brilliant.
Not to sure about how the stems look. 
Just one thing in the composition that bugs me is the free hanging piece of
metal in the lower left picture. All the others seem to sprout from the
bottom except for that one bit.
-- 
Ger


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Flower and Metal WIP3
Date: 29 Jul 2007 03:06:08
Message: <46ac3c60$1@news.povray.org>
Excellent work indeed!
The brown of the stems is still a bit odd maybe... I don't know, perhaps a 
tiny bit of green mixed to it will do the job?

Thomas


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Flower and Metal WIP3
Date: 29 Jul 2007 09:37:56
Message: <46ac9834@news.povray.org>
Ger nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/07/29 01:07:
> Rune wrote:
> 
>> Just an update.
>>
>> I got the normals issue on the stem fixed (related to my post about
>> "problem with normals and stretched uv maps") and I've dropped using
>> subsurface scattering.
>>
>> After putting in a drop shadow on the background I've been playing around
>> with the stem color and found, surprisingly, that I prefer the stems
>> non-transparent and colored after all. The saturated brown creates a nice
>> contrast to the gray shades and doesn't hog all the focus the way I had
>> thought.
>>
>> I've attached both the top image at 100dpi and an image with the overall
>> composition of the 6 images.
>>
>> I need to fix a few things still. One major question I haven't decided on
>> yet is - should the stems have some kind of leaves here and there...?
>>
>> Rune
> 
> I love the overall composition, really well done. 
> Having been a professional welder, those welds look stunningly real.
> I do have a little iffi about how the metal looks. If it's new it's more
> shiny, if it's old it's looks more "gritty". The welds suggest it's
> aluminum and then the surface should be a duller gray-ish gritty surface.
> The flowers...DNTA (Do Not Touch Anymore) simply brilliant.
> Not to sure about how the stems look. 
> Just one thing in the composition that bugs me is the free hanging piece of
> metal in the lower left picture. All the others seem to sprout from the
> bottom except for that one bit.
The piece just apears to be free hanging. Look at the bottom right part: ther's 
a piece that reatch under another. In the left part, it emerge from behind that 
one, only with a highlight that make it fade in the bachground.

-- 
Alain
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Thomas Jefferson


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From: Jellby
Subject: Re: Flower and Metal WIP3
Date: 29 Jul 2007 10:57:59
Message: <vlaun4-tq2.ln1@badulaque.unex.es>
Among other things, Rune saw fit to write:

>> Oh, wow. This will be really cool if you actually render all 6
>> images, frame them, and hang them on the wall in the right places.
> 
> That's the idea. :)

And please, make it available for others as well, either from zazzle or the
like or as POV source ;)

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From: Ger
Subject: Re: Flower and Metal WIP3
Date: 29 Jul 2007 13:53:10
Message: <46acd406@news.povray.org>
Alain wrote:

> Ger nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/07/29 01:07:
>> 
>> Just one thing in the composition that bugs me is the free hanging piece
>> of metal in the lower left picture. All the others seem to sprout from
>> the bottom except for that one bit.
> The piece just apears to be free hanging. Look at the bottom right part:
> ther's a piece that reatch under another. In the left part, it emerge from
> behind that one, only with a highlight that make it fade in the
> bachground.
> 
Okay, gotcha. 
I obviously didn't see it that way. Maybe an idea to make that just a tad
more visible.
-- 
Ger


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Flower and Metal WIP3
Date: 29 Jul 2007 20:38:16
Message: <46ad32f8@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <new### [at] runevisioncom> wrote in message 
news:46abcdb6@news.povray.org...
> I need to fix a few things still. One major question I haven't decided on 
> yet is - should the stems have some kind of leaves here and there...?

You know you've done a VERY nice job modeling the flower. The pistal and 
stamen are dead on.

Leaves .... YES! (just a few)


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Flower and Metal WIP3
Date: 30 Jul 2007 12:10:12
Message: <46ae0d64$1@news.povray.org>
Jellby wrote:
> Among other things, Rune saw fit to write:
>
>>> Oh, wow. This will be really cool if you actually render all 6
>>> images, frame them, and hang them on the wall in the right places.
>>
>> That's the idea. :)
>
> And please, make it available for others as well, either from zazzle
> or the like or as POV source ;)

Yeah, I'm considering the Zazzle option. :)

As for source code, I'll probably release certain macros that have helped me 
create the image, but not the complete source.

Rune
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