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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Catacombs
Date: 8 Mar 2007 06:31:03
Message: <45eff3f7@news.povray.org>
Hello,

I started this image to find a way to do better doorway openings in walls 
rather than just csg a hole using a cylinder and box. The bricks came from a 
scene I did about three years ago when I did a landscaping project (raised 
flower bed) and wanted to experiment with different layouts without lugging 
bricks around. The candles started out as point lights but yikes the wild 
shadows ..... converted them to area lights with some improvement ..... 
jitter smoothed out the banding. Anyway I'm pretty pleased with the results.

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Catacombs
Date: 8 Mar 2007 13:07:47
Message: <45f050f3@news.povray.org>
Jim Holsenback wrote:
> Anyway I'm pretty pleased with the results.

Very pretty.  Not very realistic, from my limited samplings of 
catacombs. (Lacking dirt, bad workmanship, water stains, moldy bones, 
etc) but maybe if you had wine bottles in the back or something... :-)

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "Let the wine breathe" does not mean to blow bubbles.
     Trust me: your wine does not need CPR.


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Catacombs
Date: 8 Mar 2007 14:12:28
Message: <45f0601c@news.povray.org>
"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message 
news:45f050f3@news.povray.org...
> Very pretty.  Not very realistic, from my limited samplings of catacombs. 
> (Lacking dirt, bad workmanship, water stains, moldy bones, etc) but maybe 
> if you had wine bottles in the back or something... :-)

heck the dirty moldy part is down in the hole .....


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From: dlm
Subject: Re: Catacombs
Date: 8 Mar 2007 14:20:58
Message: <45f0621a$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:45eff3f7@news.povray.org...
> Hello,
>
> I started this image to find a way to do better doorway openings in walls 
> rather than just csg a hole using a cylinder and box. The bricks came from 
> a scene I did about three years ago when I did a landscaping project 
> (raised flower bed) and wanted to experiment with different layouts 
> without lugging bricks around. The candles started out as point lights but 
> yikes the wild shadows ..... converted them to area lights with some 
> improvement ..... jitter smoothed out the banding. Anyway I'm pretty 
> pleased with the results.
>
> Jim
Jim,
Nice to see the flails found a home.
I think your arch structure is about to collapse!
No keystone and those angled surfaces invite disaster.
If you're going to build with dressed stone, get some competent workmen :)
DLM


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Catacombs
Date: 8 Mar 2007 18:45:05
Message: <45f0a001$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Holsenback nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 08-03-2007 06:29:
> Hello,
> 
> I started this image to find a way to do better doorway openings in walls 
> rather than just csg a hole using a cylinder and box. The bricks came from a 
> scene I did about three years ago when I did a landscaping project (raised 
> flower bed) and wanted to experiment with different layouts without lugging 
> bricks around. The candles started out as point lights but yikes the wild 
> shadows ..... converted them to area lights with some improvement ..... 
> jitter smoothed out the banding. Anyway I'm pretty pleased with the results.
> 
> Jim 
> 
> 
> 
The sides of your archway are going to collapse. The stones in the vertical 
parts must have horizontal joints or they will slide in bringing the whole thing 
down.
DLM mentioned a lacking keystone, I think that it's there, just not oversized 
like in most cases. That oversizing often have no other reason than an aestetic 
one...

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart.


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Catacombs
Date: 9 Mar 2007 05:43:53
Message: <45f13a69$1@news.povray.org>
"dlm" <me### [at] addressinvalid> wrote in message 
news:45f0621a$1@news.povray.org...
> I think your arch structure is about to collapse!
> No keystone and those angled surfaces invite disaster.
> If you're going to build with dressed stone, get some competent workmen :)
> DLM

Since I'm not a structural engineer, an architect, or a stone mason for that 
matter I couldn't agree or disagree with you with any authority. I do 
consider myself an accomplished artist and photographer, and a pretty good 
judge of the aesthetic  layout and composition of things. I was going for 
eye candy ... not too worried about meeting building codes.


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Catacombs
Date: 9 Mar 2007 05:46:48
Message: <45f13b18@news.povray.org>
"Alain" <ele### [at] netscapenet> wrote in message 
news:45f0a001$1@news.povray.org...
> The sides of your archway are going to collapse. The stones in the 
> vertical parts must have horizontal joints or they will slide in bringing 
> the whole thing down.

No way mahn ... ain't no big ting to be worrin' aboot .....  it won't be 
commin' down. It's glued together wid de magical povray glue ... called 
union.


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From: Jaap
Subject: Re: Catacombs
Date: 9 Mar 2007 08:50:01
Message: <web.45f1658d1005e3d0a8399d8d0@news.povray.org>
"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Since I'm not a structural engineer, an architect, or a stone mason

stone doesn't have anything to do with this :)

http://www.computersforart.org/create/arch/arch.htm

nice image by the way :)


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Catacombs
Date: 9 Mar 2007 15:41:48
Message: <45f1c68c$1@news.povray.org>
"Jaap" <jws### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message 
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>
> http://www.computersforart.org/create/arch/arch.htm
hahaha .... a crt monitor graveyard ..... someone must have upgraded to lcd 
panels

> nice image by the way :)

thanks .... much appreciated!


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Catacombs
Date: 9 Mar 2007 19:40:27
Message: <45f1fe7b@news.povray.org>
Jim Holsenback nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 09-03-2007 05:46:
> "Alain" <ele### [at] netscapenet> wrote in message 
> news:45f0a001$1@news.povray.org...
>> The sides of your archway are going to collapse. The stones in the 
>> vertical parts must have horizontal joints or they will slide in bringing 
>> the whole thing down.

> No way mahn ... ain't no big ting to be worrin' aboot .....  it won't be 
> commin' down. It's glued together wid de magical povray glue ... called 
> union. 
Ah! OK! You are using the strongest glue in the universe, so there are no 
problem at all ;-)

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
Don't kiss an elephant on the lips today.


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