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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Image for protest poster (73kb jpeg)
Date: 26 Feb 2007 23:04:39
Message: <45e3add7@news.povray.org>
Hello everyone! It's been a while since I've posted.... I blame it on 
video game programming :)

Anyhow.... This image was made to protest oil drilling in the Nigeria 
Delta region. There are some troubling things happening there at this 
time. Take a look at February's National Geographic or just search 
Google to find out more.

The barrels are subpatch meshes and the rest are comprised or derived 
from image_maps. I know there are problems with this image, but it is 
going to be scaled down and included with other images for a small 
poster I will be distributing all over my area.

Any comments and/or criticisms are appreciated!

~Sam


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Image for protest poster (73kb jpeg)
Date: 27 Feb 2007 03:47:58
Message: <45e3f03e$1@news.povray.org>
<sigh>
Things never change... When I was a student in geology, back in 1969, the 
Biafra war and the role Shell seemingly played in it, was one of the first 
lessons I learned about the possible consequences of the intimate 
interweaving between natural ressources (exploitation), (political) power, 
and big money. It proved to be a kind of watershed in my political thinking 
and my subsequent carreer planning.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Image for protest poster (73kb jpeg)
Date: 27 Feb 2007 03:50:00
Message: <web.45e3efc5915720b9f1cb1e660@news.povray.org>
Samuel Benge <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Hello everyone! It's been a while since I've posted.... I blame it on
> video game programming :)
>
> Anyhow.... This image was made to protest oil drilling in the Nigeria
> Delta region. There are some troubling things happening there at this
> time. Take a look at February's National Geographic or just search
> Google to find out more.
>
> The barrels are subpatch meshes and the rest are comprised or derived
> from image_maps. I know there are problems with this image, but it is
> going to be scaled down and included with other images for a small
> poster I will be distributing all over my area.
>
> Any comments and/or criticisms are appreciated!
>
> ~Sam

Hi Sam, long time no see.
I like the image and like the use of black and white. I wonder what it would
look like if the spillage was red for blood?
As for the message your protest poster conveys I see that you are following
conventional wisdom. I have worked in the River States of Nigeria for Total
(The French oil company) and have first hand experience of what it is like
there. The problem is not with what the oil companies do but the flagrant

have limited access to that news group. Here is a link to an Ex Pat site in
Nigeria if you are interested http://www.oyibosonline.com/

Strong image but a second thought is, how would it look if the barrels were
smaller and there were more of them?



Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Image for protest poster (73kb jpeg)
Date: 27 Feb 2007 04:06:10
Message: <45e3f482$1@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht 
news:web.45e3efc5915720b9f1cb1e660@news.povray.org...
>
> As for the message your protest poster conveys I see that you are 
> following
> conventional wisdom. I have worked in the River States of Nigeria for 
> Total
> (The French oil company) and have first hand experience of what it is like
> there. The problem is not with what the oil companies do but the flagrant
> corruption of the government and officials. But I don't want to go OT as I
> have limited access to that news group. Here is a link to an Ex Pat site 
> in
> Nigeria if you are interested http://www.oyibosonline.com/
>

Interesting to note how we write comments practicaly at the same time!  :-)
I think you are perfectly correct in stressing the role of corruption. 
Companies are in a pretty difficult position in view of the competition. 
However, there is the conduct codes of international companies, if they have 
one, that can be studied.
OK. this is OT. I'll stop here.

Samuel's image, in itself is good. I would suggest something a bit more 
colourful to enhance the contrast od the oil spill. For instance, colour the 
map of Africa.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Image for protest poster (73kb jpeg)
Date: 27 Feb 2007 06:00:02
Message: <web.45e40d7e915720b9f1cb1e660@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:

> Interesting to note how we write comments practicaly at the same time!  :-)
> I think you are perfectly correct in stressing the role of corruption.
> Companies are in a pretty difficult position in view of the competition.
> However, there is the conduct codes of international companies, if they have
> one, that can be studied.
> OK. this is OT. I'll stop here.

Well I start work at 8am UK time and look at the newsgroups with my morning
coffee I assume that you start at 9am CET.
Nowadays Oil companies have their backs to the wall and their codes of

mark, especially if their bonuses depend on production.

> Samuel's image, in itself is good. I would suggest something a bit more
> colourful to enhance the contrast od the oil spill. For instance, colour the
> map of Africa.

Yes I agree, there are lots of possibilities for change. Not necessary




(Person without skin)}
Stephen


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From: Ross
Subject: Re: Image for protest poster (73kb jpeg)
Date: 27 Feb 2007 11:13:15
Message: <45e4589b$1@news.povray.org>
"Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
news:45e3add7@news.povray.org...
> Hello everyone! It's been a while since I've posted.... I blame it on
> video game programming :)
>
> Anyhow.... This image was made to protest oil drilling in the Nigeria
> Delta region. There are some troubling things happening there at this
> time. Take a look at February's National Geographic or just search
> Google to find out more.
>
> The barrels are subpatch meshes and the rest are comprised or derived
> from image_maps. I know there are problems with this image, but it is
> going to be scaled down and included with other images for a small
> poster I will be distributing all over my area.
>
> Any comments and/or criticisms are appreciated!
>
> ~Sam

Excellent statement. I'd like to see some higher image quality settings
though. The blobs of oil look like they have jagged edges, and the shadows
are grainy.

I agree with Thomas that a colored map might look nice. Although if you are
only printing in black and white then it might be pointless. It could also
have artistic implications, a vibrant growing Africa covered up in old
fashion oil corruption.

I really like the image


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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Image for protest poster (73kb jpeg)
Date: 27 Feb 2007 12:52:31
Message: <45e46fdf$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> 
> Hi Sam, long time no see.

Hello!

> I like the image and like the use of black and white. I wonder what it would
> look like if the spillage was red for blood?

No money for so many color copies, I'm afraid. I'll have to settle for 
good old black-and-white. I figure if I do the image in grey now, then 
I'll have a better idea of how the final print will look like.

> As for the message your protest poster conveys I see that you are following
> conventional wisdom. I have worked in the River States of Nigeria for Total
> (The French oil company) and have first hand experience of what it is like
> there.

Recently?

> The problem is not with what the oil companies do but the flagrant
> corruption of the government and officials.

Indeed. I still need to focus on specific companies so that people might 
be inclined to buy elsewhere.


> have limited access to that news group.

Ahh, the old web-based news server problem :)

> Here is a link to an Ex Pat site in
> Nigeria if you are interested http://www.oyibosonline.com/

Thanks for that.

> Strong image but a second thought is, how would it look if the barrels were
> smaller and there were more of them?

I will consider that, thanks!

~Sam


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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Image for protest poster (73kb jpeg)
Date: 27 Feb 2007 12:57:20
Message: <45e47100@news.povray.org>
Ross wrote:
> 
> Excellent statement. I'd like to see some higher image quality settings
> though. The blobs of oil look like they have jagged edges, and the shadows
> are grainy.

Yes, the oil edges. The oil is simply derived from an image_map, so all 
I need to do there is resize and re-blur the original.

> I agree with Thomas that a colored map might look nice. Although if you are
> only printing in black and white then it might be pointless.

Yes I am printing in only black-and-white :(

> It could also
> have artistic implications, a vibrant growing Africa covered up in old
> fashion oil corruption.

Hmm, I like that idea. I could take a vegetative growth map and "kill" 
the areas near the oil spill.

> I really like the image

Thanks!

~Sam


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