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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Medieval Mace
Date: 26 Feb 2007 08:31:25
Message: <45e2e12d@news.povray.org>
Hola,

Ever since my courtyard scene I've been thinking about knights and such 
things .... well I too have been working on a brick thing .... however 
between trying to figure out what to do next I stated working on something 
else. It came out rather nice so I thought I'd post.

Jim


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From: Vincent Le Chevalier
Subject: Re: Medieval Mace
Date: 26 Feb 2007 10:04:32
Message: <45e2f700$1@news.povray.org>
I'll put my "medieval weaponry nut" cap on, and risk a few comments :-)

I think you got the materials and assembly quite right. However, the 
proportion are a bit off...

A flail (because a mace does not have the chain part) would have a 
shorter chain in general, about half the length of the shaft. This was 
done so in order to avoid that the head hit right on your hand after a 
missed strike. A more thorough discussion can be found here:
http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=8785
and here if you are interested in the method of use:
http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=8705

Also, the typical flail would have maybe less spikes and a smaller ball. 
  Fewer spikes would be better at penetrating armour plates, because 
only one spike would hit. And you have to keep the weight manageable. A 
ball this big, made all in steel would be too much heavy I believe. 
Could even break at the handle just from static weight ;-)

A flail with more typical proportions (as well as an interesting chain 
if you are into modelling) can be seen here:
http://www.armor.com/view.html?pole144a.jpg

Keep up the good work!

-- 
Vincent


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Medieval Mace
Date: 26 Feb 2007 11:39:49
Message: <45e30d55@news.povray.org>
"Vincent Le Chevalier" <gal### [at] libertyALLsurfSPAMfr> wrote in 
message news:45e2f700$1@news.povray.org...
> I'll put my "medieval weaponry nut" cap on, and risk a few comments :-)

> A flail (because a mace does not have the chain part) would have a

I stand corrected ....

> shorter chain in general, about half the length of the shaft. This was
> done so in order to avoid that the head hit right on your hand after a
> missed strike.

Owww .... I see what you mean!!!

Thanks for the feedback and links ..... scale the ball (like the spikes) and 
shortened the chain.

Jim


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From: RusHHouR
Subject: Re: Medieval Mace
Date: 26 Feb 2007 14:10:01
Message: <web.45e3300149213e7c47d3ae5e0@news.povray.org>
"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> Hola,
>
> Ever since my courtyard scene I've been thinking about knights and such
> things .... well I too have been working on a brick thing .... however
> between trying to figure out what to do next I stated working on something
> else. It came out rather nice so I thought I'd post.
>
> Jim

Ouch, looks evil...
I like! :)

Gotta add that your lovely courtyard scene got me inspired to start working
on my castle gard scene.

This new version looks even better!


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Medieval Mace
Date: 26 Feb 2007 14:28:49
Message: <45e334f1@news.povray.org>
"RusHHouR" <gee### [at] mailnu> wrote in message 
news:web.45e3300149213e7c47d3ae5e0@news.povray.org...
> Gotta add that your lovely courtyard scene got me inspired to start 
> working
> on my castle gard scene.

thanks .... i'm working on catacombs .... bricks instead of stones

> This new version looks even better!

yes I agree ..... that's what I like about posting here (like Vincents great 
feedback) .... sometimes people point out things that never would have 
occured to me


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From: Vincent Le Chevalier
Subject: Re: Medieval Mace
Date: 26 Feb 2007 16:01:15
Message: <45e34a9b$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Holsenback wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback and links .....

Hey, glad to help :-)

> scale the ball (like the spikes) and 
> shortened the chain.
> 

Yep, much safer this way ;-)

Regards

-- 
Vincent


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Medieval Mace
Date: 26 Feb 2007 18:55:32
Message: <45e37374$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Holsenback nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 26-02-2007 08:31:
> Hola,
> 
> Ever since my courtyard scene I've been thinking about knights and such 
> things .... well I too have been working on a brick thing .... however 
> between trying to figure out what to do next I stated working on something 
> else. It came out rather nice so I thought I'd post.
> 
> Jim 
> 
> 
> 
That's one wicked flail. A mace is straight, one piece and not articullated.

-- 
Alain
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