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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Hug (Birthday Card)
Date: 1 Feb 2006 17:59:41
Message: <43e13d5d@news.povray.org>
Hi there!

Did this one today, as a friend of mine has birthday on the 3rd. The text on
the card (removed from this image as it is german and thus not
international) says "A hug has many meanings...", and on the back I go on
that I hope she's not as naive as to think I only hug her because it's her
birthday. :-)

She's been a good friend to me lately, and I wanted to express that...
Anyways, back to the pic. The models were made with Silo and textured with
large-scaled granite. A no_image sphere with some colors for reflections
(especially for the highlights) was used, as well as the lightdome,
originally invented for my late robot-image. I think it does a nice job for
ambient lighting, and adds some depth to the images as opposed to
traditional 3-point lighting. I'll probably be refining and updating it over
the next images. ;-)

Comments?

Regards,
Tim

-- 
aka "Tim Nikias v2.0"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: Hug (Birthday Card)
Date: 2 Feb 2006 00:46:05
Message: <43e19c9c@news.povray.org>
"Tim Nikias" <JUSTTHELOWERCASE:timISNOTnikias(at)gmx.netWARE> spake:

> Hi there!
> 
> Did this one today, as a friend of mine has birthday on the 3rd. The text
> on the card (removed from this image as it is german and thus not
> international) says "A hug has many meanings...", and on the back I go on
> that I hope she's not as naive as to think I only hug her because it's her
> birthday. :-)
> 
> She's been a good friend to me lately, and I wanted to express that...
> Anyways, back to the pic. The models were made with Silo and textured with
> large-scaled granite. A no_image sphere with some colors for reflections
> (especially for the highlights) was used, as well as the lightdome,
> originally invented for my late robot-image. I think it does a nice job
> for ambient lighting, and adds some depth to the images as opposed to
> traditional 3-point lighting. I'll probably be refining and updating it
> over the next images. ;-)
> 
> Comments?

Yikes! One can see you're definitely European.

Technically it looks quite nice but the theme might be a bit... suggestive?
if I sent something like this to any of the (very few) girls I knew, they
drop by especially just to slap me through the face, and never speak to me
again. Mind you, they almost don't speak to me anyway! :)

Then again, depending on the relationship...

Well done anyway, the woman is a bit Earth-maiden like, and I love the
texture.

-- 
Stefan Viljoen
Software Support Technician / Programmer
Polar Design Solutions


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Hug (Birthday Card)
Date: 2 Feb 2006 02:33:27
Message: <43e1b5c7$1@news.povray.org>
> Yikes! One can see you're definitely European.

How is that?

> Technically it looks quite nice but the theme might be a bit...
suggestive?

Nah, I don't think so. She's having her birthday and is supposed to be in
good mood and happy. So when a good friend comes by to congratulate her,
she's likely to jump up and be cheerful. And that's the moment I'm
depicting.

> if I sent something like this to any of the (very few) girls I knew, they
> drop by especially just to slap me through the face, and never speak to me
> again. Mind you, they almost don't speak to me anyway! :)

Maybe the relationship/friendship has to be settled and obvious for such
things to work properly. She knows I'm not after her, mainly because I just
broke up with my girlfriend (and not because of her, mind you). I think
she'll understand. :-)

Regards,
Tim

-- 
aka "Tim Nikias v2.0"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Hug (Birthday Card)
Date: 2 Feb 2006 03:06:00
Message: <43e1bd68@news.povray.org>
Nice work, Tim! It looks like a sculpture. If it where in any city square,
it would make people happy and think of Spring.

Thomas


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Hug (Birthday Card)
Date: 2 Feb 2006 03:07:07
Message: <43e1bdab$1@news.povray.org>
> Nice work, Tim! It looks like a sculpture. If it where in any city square,
> it would make people happy and think of Spring.

Thank you! Spring... That's good. New flowers, warm sunshine after the cold
winter... Great! :-)

Regards,
Tim

-- 
aka "Tim Nikias v2.0"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Hug (Birthday Card)
Date: 2 Feb 2006 04:42:37
Message: <20l3u1lqf9g3k2u9pmcdhmrcqjqhtr2hva@4ax.com>
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 23:58:46 +0100, "Tim Nikias"
<JUSTTHELOWERCASE:timISNOTnikias(at)gmx.netWARE> wrote:

>Comments?

Firstly I think that this looks great.
I agree with Stefan in a way, I think it is overtly sexual. Although
you have de-gendered the models that makes the imagination work
harder.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Hug (Birthday Card)
Date: 2 Feb 2006 06:29:16
Message: <43e1ed0c$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 23:58:46 +0100, "Tim Nikias"
> <JUSTTHELOWERCASE:timISNOTnikias(at)gmx.netWARE> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Comments?
> 
> 
> Firstly I think that this looks great.
> I agree with Stefan in a way, I think it is overtly sexual. Although
> you have de-gendered the models that makes the imagination work
> harder.
Mmmmm maybe, but but sports figures are doing that sort of thing all the 
time too arn't they?

I am reminded of a conversation I once had with a female co-worker. She 
was describing the dissappointing date she'd gone on the night before. 
She been taken to see a hockey game which mostly bored her until one 
wild, scrambled play which resulted in several players ending up 
entangled on top of each other inside one of the goal nets.  She found 
it humorous but commented ruefully that it looked to her like the 
players had had more "fun" that night than she did.


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Hug (Birthday Card)
Date: 2 Feb 2006 07:03:28
Message: <43e1f510$1@news.povray.org>
> > I agree with Stefan in a way, I think it is overtly sexual. Although
> > you have de-gendered the models that makes the imagination work
> > harder.
> Mmmmm maybe, but but sports figures are doing that sort of thing all the
> time too arn't they?

Well, like I said in a different post, I was thinking along the lines of:
she sees her friend - rushes towards him in cheerful expectation - and is
being lifted by his hug. So where does she place her legs? One is to his
side, the other is hidden from view, but just pointing backward.

And in my oppinion, her reaching arms don't make it look very sexual, and
from a strict biological viewpoint, these two peeps are too far away from
each other.

And even if it is slightly sexual, I don't think it harms in this case. We
both share the oppinion that often, very simple acts like a hug *can* be
(and are) sexual in the right context, but they don't *have* to be if not
meant in that way. In this case, it's her birthday, she should be
celebrating it and having fun. And getting hugged, of course. :-)

Regards,
Tim

-- 
aka "Tim Nikias v2.0"
Homepage: <http://www.nolights.de>


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From: Stefan Viljoen
Subject: Re: Hug (Birthday Card)
Date: 2 Feb 2006 11:55:37
Message: <43e23988@news.povray.org>
"Tim Nikias" <JUSTTHELOWERCASE:timISNOTnikias(at)gmx.netWARE> spake:

>> Yikes! One can see you're definitely European.
> 
> How is that?

A bit of a lame joke I admit. I visited Europe in the 90's and, coming from
a very conservative society (white South Africa) was amazed at the openess
most Europeans (especially the French and Italians) had about sex and
sexually related stuff. That was what I was refering to.

-- 
Stefan Viljoen
Software Support Technician / Programmer
Polar Design Solutions


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From: Smws
Subject: Re: Hug (Birthday Card)
Date: 2 Feb 2006 13:50:00
Message: <web.43e253f67909a63b135b10720@news.povray.org>
Very nice! The figures are simple but very expressive. It looks very much
like some soapstone carvings I have seen. I would welcome such a card on my
birthday!

I have to say that, like many radiosity images, the figures don't seem
particlularly attached to the ground. I know this is somewhat realistic,
though, and I don't think it detracts from this image.

Just out of curiosity, does the granite have some turbulence?

Anyway, nice image.
-Stefan


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