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From: Jim Charter
Subject: dardevl v2 [28 kb]
Date: 16 Nov 2005 03:40:57
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some megapov motion blur


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: dardevl v2 [28 kb]
Date: 16 Nov 2005 12:29:55
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in news:437af099@news.povray.org Jim Charter wrote:

> some megapov motion blur

This is beautyful, Jim.

Ingo


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: dardevl v2 [28 kb]
Date: 16 Nov 2005 19:55:00
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ingo <ing### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> in news:437af099@news.povray.org Jim Charter wrote:
>
> > some megapov motion blur
>
> This is beautyful, Jim.

I second that !

--
Tor Olav
http://subcube.com


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: dardevl v2 [28 kb]
Date: 17 Nov 2005 00:57:15
Message: <437c1bbb$1@news.povray.org>
Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> ingo <ing### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> 
>>in news:437af099@news.povray.org Jim Charter wrote:
>>
>>
>>>some megapov motion blur
>>
>>This is beautyful, Jim.
> 
> 
> I second that !
> 
> --
> Tor Olav
> http://subcube.com
> 
> 
Thank you gentlemen.  It's a fairly spartan piece but the great thing 
about these groups is that there's always someone who gets what you are 
trying to do.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: dardevl v2 [28 kb]
Date: 17 Nov 2005 04:33:36
Message: <437c4e70@news.povray.org>
"ingo" <ing### [at] tagpovrayorg> schreef in bericht
news:Xns9710BC2D819F7seed7@news.povray.org...
>
> This is beautyful, Jim.
>
I was going to say exactly the same thing!

Thomas


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: dardevl v2 [28 kb]
Date: 17 Nov 2005 15:47:52
Message: <437cec78$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message 
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> Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
>> ingo <ing### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>>
>>>in news:437af099@news.povray.org Jim Charter wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>some megapov motion blur
>>>
>>>This is beautyful, Jim.
>>
>>
>> I second that !
>>
>>
> Thank you gentlemen.  It's a fairly spartan piece but the great thing 
> about these groups is that there's always someone who gets what you are 
> trying to do.

Third (or is it fourth now?).

Did you try to mimic the exact motion of the lure?  I don't think I would 
know the difference, but you obviously put some thought into the motion. 
With your posts, however, I'm never quite certain if I grasped the true 
meaning.  Feel free to enlighten me if you'd like.  I took band instead of 
art.  :-)

It has been my wallpaper for the last couple of days, here at work.  I've 
had a couple of people ask me what it was, which strikes up a conversation 
about two things I love to talk about: POV-Ray and fishing.  :-)

In that vein, my mom recently bought an Amish-built "jelly cupboard" for my 
wife and me.  It looks very much like a "new antique", if I can use that 
term.  Anyway, it has revived my love of creating wooden things in POV-Ray. 
I just may have to create a POV-Ray version of it.

--
Jeremy


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: dardevl v2 [28 kb]
Date: 17 Nov 2005 17:00:50
Message: <437cfd92$1@news.povray.org>
Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
> "Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message 
> news:437c1bbb$1@news.povray.org...
> 
>>Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
>>
>>>ingo <ing### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>in news:437af099@news.povray.org Jim Charter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>some megapov motion blur
>>>>
>>>>This is beautyful, Jim.
>>>
>>>
>>>I second that !
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Thank you gentlemen.  It's a fairly spartan piece but the great thing 
>>about these groups is that there's always someone who gets what you are 
>>trying to do.
> 
> 
> Third (or is it fourth now?).
> 
> Did you try to mimic the exact motion of the lure?  I don't think I would 
> know the difference, but you obviously put some thought into the motion. 
> With your posts, however, I'm never quite certain if I grasped the true 
> meaning.  Feel free to enlighten me if you'd like.  I took band instead of 
> art.  :-)

It is a opening shot.  A very limited first stab at realizing a 
collection of ideas I have had surrounding the use of motion blur for 
many years now.  That picture "Shorebirds" is another approach to it but 
there the subject is caught in various random blurred postures with no 
real structure.

My idea really comes from a canvas by the painter Joe Andoe, who I have 
mentioned here before, and whose work I admire very much. The canvas in 
question showed the incubus of an idea that, to my knowledge, Joe never 
subsequently pursued.  It was an early work in his signature 
scraped-into-impasto style and it portrayed a small bird in flight.  In 
an apparent attempt to record his impressions in a very naive way he 
showed the wings flapping in many strobed instances so the bird looked 
more like a flower.

So what I have always wanted to do was take that strobed look and apply 
it to some motion along a path.  But the point is, (to finally answer 
your question,) that the effect is to be highly subjective, painterly, 
based on the trappings of strobed photographs, but also incorporating 
blurred photo effects, and as well, citing the narrative tradition of 
pictorial art which allows for a sequence of events to be portrayed in a 
continuous space.
(examples of this are two numerous to cite but think Trajan's Column, 
Duccio's The Tribute Money, or even those endless studies by Picasso of 
"Three Women" sitting in a group (which also just happen to give you the 
front, back, and profile shot in sequence.)

> 
> It has been my wallpaper for the last couple of days, here at work.  I've 
> had a couple of people ask me what it was, which strikes up a conversation 
> about two things I love to talk about: POV-Ray and fishing.  :-)

What can I say? I'm very flattered.  This picture was actually just a 
test but it took awhile to render and while I felt it didn't "nail" all 
I hoped would result, I couldn't specifically say why not, so I posted 
it.  Therefore I reserve the right to extend the series without 
committing to it as a series. ;)

I am right now modifying the code so that the snap aligns more with the 
monfilament, would would be more natural, and also applying true motion 
blur to the monofilament.  In this picture I just layed them down with a 
loop.  What is involved is putting the global settings inside a macro so 
the motion blur parameters can be reset for different instances of the 
object.  This seems to work as long as the "samples" parameter is 
increased each time, never decreased.  Also I was also drawing the 
monofilament along a spline using a macro which does not work well with 
the motion blur block.  But I think that will be easy to fix.

> 
> In that vein, my mom recently bought an Amish-built "jelly cupboard" for my 
> wife and me.  It looks very much like a "new antique", if I can use that 
> term.  Anyway, it has revived my love of creating wooden things in POV-Ray. 
> I just may have to create a POV-Ray version of it.
> 
It's a great direction for you.


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