Stephen McAvoy wrote:


> This goes down the old "we see what we expect to see" road, which is
> fascinating.

All it takes for me, is that I get "turned around" in my sense of 
directions.  Suddenly an environment I am used to "looks totally 
strange".  Yesterday I was walking around a park here called Marcus 
Garvey Gardens.  It lies directly across 5th Avenue.  The avenue just 
stops at one side then continues again on the other side.  I was on the 
north side of the park where 5th abutts but I *thought* I was on the 
south side.  Total disorientation.

  IMHO Huxley (A) was on the right path when he said that
> the mind is a reducing valve to the universe. It enables us to have an
> understandable view of it.

I loved Huxley's writings on art.  I especially liked the line that went 
something like: "If religion is the opiate of the masses, then surely 
draperies are the opiate of painters".  Loved his discussion of the late 
work of Goya.

> 
> 
>>I assume you are aware of this:
>>http://www.koopfilms.com/hockney/
> 
> 
> I saw it when it was first broadcast in the UK. Hence the mention of
> the camera obscura.
> 
I haven't seen the program.  I happened to read a bit about it recently, 
just what I could find on the web, but I didn't really dig in.  Put it 
off to later then lost the link.  I think it is pretty interesting 
though.  I had been trying turn up anything I could on the subject of 
Vermeer, and/or the Dutch painting of his time, and mirrors, in the hope 
that I could make some connections vis-a-vis Rene Bui's entry in POVCOMP.

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John D. Gwinner wrote:
> The pavement is very good looking.

   Thanks!

> I'm not sure about the autobahn, but normally worn asphault has a 
> pattern of cracks that I haven't found a good way to simulate.

   Yes, I also tried that with the crackle pattern, but without much
success... so I didn't use it for that image. But after you mentioned
it, I played with the metric of the crackle and it looks now a bit more
credible, so I included it on the last version.

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Jaime

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St. wrote:
> I think I would add some off-yellow and grey foliage under the bushes
>  in that central reservation .

   Yes, you are right... only with 2 different colorations it looks much
better now. And it was not that hard without consuming much additional
memory: on the mesh include generated by POVTree, I changed the
placement of the textures statement from inside the FOLIAGE object to
the object instance on the TREE union, and created another union TREE2
with a different texture.

   Thanks!

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Jaime

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Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> breathtaking.

   Thanks!

> From my wacky perspective, somehow this would be even cooler if you 
> were to add to it something that ain't photorealistic or overly 
> stylized in construction.  That would make it extra cool.   If you 
> were to say put this image as-is  on a subway billboard 
> advertisement, who'd care-- it's just a photograph.

   The problem is my imagination... for that kind of touch it's really
poor... but let me see what I can do. :)

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Jaime

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Thanks to all for the criticism! I've corrected some of the flaws
mentioned and will be working on the rest for the final version, ASAP.

I'm sending a test without radiosity nor focal blur, because with
area_light is taking now *very long* to render (10 hours so far, and it
didn't complete half of the image).

--
Jaime

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Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> Thanks to all for the criticism! I've corrected some of the flaws
> mentioned and will be working on the rest for the final version, ASAP.
> 

Damn. I'm wordless now.

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Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> Thanks to all for the criticism! I've corrected some of the flaws
> mentioned and will be working on the rest for the final version, ASAP.
> 
> I'm sending a test without radiosity nor focal blur, because with
> area_light is taking now *very long* to render (10 hours so far, and it
> didn't complete half of the image).
> 
> -- 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
Some comments:
1.- Thanks God I was sit in my chair when I saw it.
2.- My wife said "... and?"; "It's 3D" I answered; "Whoao..."
3.- My little daughter couldn't believe the trees and the cars were done 
on a computer.
4.- I'm very proud of you. Great job Jaime.
5.- Sure it's redundant but "Stop posting photographsssssss" ;-)

... keep it up
________________________
Txemi Jendrix
www.txemijendrix.com

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de news:42767763@news.povray.org...
> Thanks to all for the criticism! I've corrected some of the flaws
> mentioned and will be working on the rest for the final version, ASAP.
>
> I'm sending a test without radiosity nor focal blur, because with
> area_light is taking now *very long* to render (10 hours so far, and it
> didn't complete half of the image).
>
> --
> Jaime
Wow that's even much better :-)
I don't know if it is the no radiosity option but wet can see a lot more
details.
When I compare our 2 images, it's definitely the last which is a photo ;-)

Marc

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Yadgar <yaz### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> High!
>
>>

> to have invented raytracing?
>
> See you in Khyberspace!
>
> Yadgar

Woodcuts --> Raytracing ??? :-)


Shame on me!

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Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> Stephen McAvoy wrote:
>
>
> > This goes down the old "we see what we expect to see" road, which is
> > fascinating.
>
> All it takes for me, is that I get "turned around" in my sense of
> directions.  Suddenly an environment I am used to "looks totally
> strange".  Yesterday I was walking around a park here called Marcus
> Garvey Gardens.

That renowned son of Jamaica has a garden in NY? Fame!

>It lies directly across 5th Avenue.  The avenue just
> stops at one side then continues again on the other side.  I was on the
> north side of the park where 5th abutts but I *thought* I was on the
> south side.  Total disorientation.

It generally takes mothers little helpers (if your mother is Jamaican) to


another.

>   IMHO Huxley (A) was on the right path when he said that
> > the mind is a reducing valve to the universe. It enables us to have an
> > understandable view of it.
>
> I loved Huxley's writings on art.  I especially liked the line that went
> something like: "If religion is the opiate of the masses, then surely
> draperies are the opiate of painters".

LOL in fact I had to leave the office I was giggling so.

>Loved his discussion of the late
> work of Goya.
>

Missed that.

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