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http://pterandon.blogspot.com/2005/01/image-made-from-my-character-and-scene.html
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Cute!
Is there an artifact on that forward leg near the hip?
- Grim
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Greg M. Johnson wrote:
> http://pterandon.blogspot.com/2005/01/image-made-from-my-character-and-scene.html
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The calf seems thicker than the thigh. Shouldn't that be the otherway
around?
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Maurice
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"The season of the blob-man"? ...and we wonder why Gilles doesn't always
release his sources... ;-)
But on a serious note, I noticed that you made sure you "attributed" the
objects/scene to Gilles under the CC license by placing the notice of
attribution on the picture itself. This is where I get fuzzy. How/Where
must the attribution be made? I doubt that Gilles is going to sue any of
us, but overall it's something I've wondered about. My best guess would be
that the attribution simply has to be "somewhere". It could be text
accompanying the image.
Or... perhaps it brings up the whole 3D objects "use" issue again. If
you're going to distribute it, then you must make an attribution. If it's
simply used in an image, then you don't? Or do you? That's where I get
confused.
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Legal Jeremy
www.beantoad.com
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news:41e02167$1@news.povray.org...
> But on a serious note, I noticed that you made sure you "attributed" the
> objects/scene to Gilles under the CC license by placing the notice of
> attribution on the picture itself. This is where I get fuzzy. How/Where
> must the attribution be made? I doubt that Gilles is going to sue any of
> us, but overall it's something I've wondered about. My best guess would
be
> that the attribution simply has to be "somewhere". It could be text
> accompanying the image.
>
> Or... perhaps it brings up the whole 3D objects "use" issue again. If
> you're going to distribute it, then you must make an attribution. If it's
> simply used in an image, then you don't? Or do you? That's where I get
> confused.
As someone who's been using a lot of 3rd party tools and models, my take is
always that common sense and good manners should prevail, independently of
legal aspects. It's all about paying tribute when tribute's due and not
lying/misleading people about one's own work. The best way to do this really
cannot be set in stone : while good manners say that 3rd party input should
always be acknowledged in a clear fashion, common sense also dictates that
this is not always possible. If I had put attribution notices directly on
all my images the credits would have covered 80% of the picture area... To
give an even more obvious example, music files containing samples don't
contain the voice of a person listing the samples' authors.
Frankly, I don't think it's that big a problem and the few incidents I've
seen in the past were clearly from people who had decided to cheat no matter
what (see the AWSOME ROLEX incident
http://www.wikipov.org/ow.asp?AwsomeRolex).
G.
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"Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapg inrafr> wrote in message
news:41e501f5$1@news.povray.org...
>
> As someone who's been using a lot of 3rd party tools and models, my take
> is
> always that common sense and good manners should prevail, independently of
> legal aspects. It's all about paying tribute when tribute's due and not
> lying/misleading people about one's own work. The best way to do this
> really
> cannot be set in stone : while good manners say that 3rd party input
> should
> always be acknowledged in a clear fashion, common sense also dictates that
> this is not always possible. If I had put attribution notices directly on
> all my images the credits would have covered 80% of the picture area... To
> give an even more obvious example, music files containing samples don't
> contain the voice of a person listing the samples' authors.
> Frankly, I don't think it's that big a problem and the few incidents I've
> seen in the past were clearly from people who had decided to cheat no
> matter
> what (see the AWSOME ROLEX incident
> http://www.wikipov.org/ow.asp?AwsomeRolex).
>
Thanks, Gilles. You've touched on what I think is the most relevant.
People like me (honest guys) worry about the legal implications, as well as
the person-to-person implications. I (and probably most others) don't want
to use something in a way that does not seem to give the author credit, and
have the author become upset with us.
One example would be selling postcards. While it's possible to make
attributions on the back of each card that gets sold, most people buying the
product would probably not want a big list of names on the back (LightSys IV
by Jaime Vives Piqueres, MakeGrass by Gilles Tran, IsoWood by Christoph
Hormann, Ferrari by Bill Smith...). That list could get quite long. But,
having a paragraph (or an asterisk to one) beside the image on a Web page is
not as difficult, and would simply be courteous.
--
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com
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