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From: Hugo Asm
Subject: Golden Nuts 'n Bolts
Date: 2 Jul 2004 18:50:02
Message: <40e5e69a@news.povray.org>
Hi,

The idea to make a "Nuts and Bolts" scene came from Tek. I used the same
settings as before (the Parfum Flacon post). Well, maybe the metal is
actually too shiny. I don't know. I also don't know if this is supposed to
be copper or gold. What do you think? I think the bolts look quite "melted"
too, but that might have to do with the modelling rather than the
material... Btw, they are modelled in Wings3d... Comments, suggestions?

Thanks.
Hugo


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From: Xplo Eristotle
Subject: Re: Golden Nuts 'n Bolts
Date: 2 Jul 2004 19:19:33
Message: <40e5ed85$1@news.povray.org>
Hugo Asm wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The idea to make a "Nuts and Bolts" scene came from Tek. I used the same
> settings as before (the Parfum Flacon post). Well, maybe the metal is
> actually too shiny. I don't know. I also don't know if this is supposed to
> be copper or gold. What do you think? I think the bolts look quite "melted"
> too, but that might have to do with the modelling rather than the
> material... Btw, they are modelled in Wings3d... Comments, suggestions?

The bolts (screws?) do look a bit melted, but I don't know if modeling 
or a normal is at fault for that.

The metal looks a little like brass plating or something (although it's 
a little bright/pale for brass). I wouldn't say they're necessarily 
*too* shiny. Reflections look good.

If you're going for photorealism here, you'll want a more realistic 
surface for them to rest on.

-Xplo


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From: Hughes, B 
Subject: Re: Golden Nuts 'n Bolts
Date: 2 Jul 2004 20:04:13
Message: <40e5f7fd$1@news.povray.org>
Stunningly realistic to my eyes. Perfect for being tiny in size, screws are
about right for computer drive hardware... colors too. Not sure I'd describe
those as golden. Maybe chrome-like shown under incandescent room light.
Image contrast looks very good to me, with highlights being sharp and
shadows dark. It's a beautiful job of rendering.

Bob H.


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From: Apache
Subject: Re: Golden Nuts 'n Bolts
Date: 2 Jul 2004 20:07:27
Message: <40e5f8bf@news.povray.org>
also modelled with wings3d?

i'm really impressed my friend!


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From: Dave B
Subject: Re: Golden Nuts 'n Bolts
Date: 2 Jul 2004 20:54:48
Message: <40e603d8@news.povray.org>
Photo Photo Photo :-p

Nice work.


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From: Michael Raiford
Subject: Re: Golden Nuts 'n Bolts
Date: 2 Jul 2004 22:33:44
Message: <40e61b08$1@news.povray.org>
Hugo Asm wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The idea to make a "Nuts and Bolts" scene came from Tek. I used the same
> settings as before (the Parfum Flacon post). Well, maybe the metal is
> actually too shiny. I don't know. I also don't know if this is supposed to
> be copper or gold. What do you think? I think the bolts look quite "melted"
> too, but that might have to do with the modelling rather than the
> material... Btw, they are modelled in Wings3d... Comments, suggestions?
> 
> Thanks.
> Hugo
> 
> 
> 

Wow, very realistic :)

I'd probably suggest somehow softening the reflection a bit on the 
meatal, though. But, still, they are nice in their own right. It seems 
like Jamie's (www.ignorancia.org) nust&bolts had a softer texture, IIRC 
he used a micronormal to acheive the desired effect.  But, if shiny is 
what you're going for, then these are perfect!


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Golden Nuts 'n Bolts
Date: 2 Jul 2004 23:06:51
Message: <40e622cb$1@news.povray.org>
Hugo Asm nous apporta ses lumieres ainsi en ce 02/07/2004 18:49... :

>Hi,
>
>The idea to make a "Nuts and Bolts" scene came from Tek. I used the same
>settings as before (the Parfum Flacon post). Well, maybe the metal is
>actually too shiny. I don't know. I also don't know if this is supposed to
>be copper or gold. What do you think? I think the bolts look quite "melted"
>too, but that might have to do with the modelling rather than the
>material... Btw, they are modelled in Wings3d... Comments, suggestions?
>
>Thanks.
>Hugo
>
>
>  
>
Just perfect! Some chromed steel bolts and nuts. The small nicks in the 
front one groove adds tons of realism.

Alain


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: Golden Nuts 'n Bolts
Date: 2 Jul 2004 23:26:03
Message: <40e6274b$1@news.povray.org>
"Hughes, B." <bob### [at] charternet> wrote in message
news:40e5f7fd$1@news.povray.org...
> Stunningly realistic to my eyes. Perfect for being tiny in size, screws
are
> about right for computer drive hardware... colors too.
>

I agree.  Great job modeling and texturing, Hugo!

> Not sure I'd describe
> those as golden. Maybe chrome-like shown under incandescent room light.
> Image contrast looks very good to me, with highlights being sharp and
> shadows dark. It's a beautiful job of rendering.

Could the chrome-like appearance be due to a blue sky_sphere?  That would be
my best guess.  If so, simply changing the sky_sphere and/or other
surroundings may make them look a little more golden.

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com


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From: Fernando G  del Cueto
Subject: Re: Golden Nuts 'n Bolts
Date: 3 Jul 2004 02:07:40
Message: <40e64d2c$1@news.povray.org>
VEEERY NICE :)

I would improve the texture of the ground to add much more realism to the
whole scene. But the nuts&bolts are amazing.

Congrats,

Fernando


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From: Tek
Subject: Re: Golden Nuts 'n Bolts
Date: 3 Jul 2004 04:20:24
Message: <40e66c48$1@news.povray.org>
Okay, I'm increasing my score. That's gotta be a 9.5 for that material. At
least. I've seen things that look like that! Are those imperfections in the
model or in the material? They really make it look convincing.

Though I'm surpised it looks that good on these objects, since it's obviously
not the kind of metal they'd usually be made from. Still, it's enough for me to
judge that is looks right.

I'm not sure what to suggest to improve it. It looks a bit shiny and smooth,
which usually makes things look less realistic, but then there are metals that
really look like that and if you less smooth then you'll make it look like a
different material. So I guess my only suggestion would be to do several
different materials based on this, so you could make a red/orange version for
copper, a brown one for brass, etc.

-- 
Tek
www.evilsuperbrain.com


"Hugo Asm" <hua### [at] post3teledk> wrote in message
news:40e5e69a@news.povray.org...
> Hi,
>
> The idea to make a "Nuts and Bolts" scene came from Tek. I used the same
> settings as before (the Parfum Flacon post). Well, maybe the metal is
> actually too shiny. I don't know. I also don't know if this is supposed to
> be copper or gold. What do you think? I think the bolts look quite "melted"
> too, but that might have to do with the modelling rather than the
> material... Btw, they are modelled in Wings3d... Comments, suggestions?
>
> Thanks.
> Hugo
>
>
>


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