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From: St 
Subject: Meet 'Nelly'...
Date: 8 May 2004 14:22:54
Message: <409d257e@news.povray.org>
Something I've been working on in the last couple of days.

  Comments welcome.

  ~Steve~


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Meet 'Nelly'...
Date: 9 May 2004 00:47:19
Message: <409db7d7$1@news.povray.org>
Impressive!  I love the subject and I think there is some great, subtle 
handling of form, particularilay in the front of the skull.


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Meet 'Nelly'...
Date: 9 May 2004 04:02:25
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message
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> Impressive!

   Thanks Jim!

 I love the subject and I think there is some great, subtle
> handling of form, particularilay in the front of the skull.

  Elephants are a great subject, they seem to be almost human with
their emotions, and emotion is hopefully what you're seeing. There's a
lot to do with him, (he's a Bull Elephant), i.e, the tusks need to be
dirtied, battered and bruised, and the skin texture needs to be
improved also.

  Glad you like him anyway.

    ~Steve~


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Meet 'Nelly'...
Date: 9 May 2004 14:10:41
Message: <409e7421$1@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:

> 
>   Elephants are a great subject, they seem to be almost human with
> their emotions, and emotion is hopefully what you're seeing. There's a

That too.


> lot to do with him, (he's a Bull Elephant), i.e, the tusks need to be
> dirtied, battered and bruised, and the skin texture needs to be
> improved also.
> 

Your going to have some fun with that.


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Meet 'Nelly'...
Date: 10 May 2004 18:07:30
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message
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> St. wrote:
>
> >
> >   Elephants are a great subject, they seem to be almost human with
> > their emotions, and emotion is hopefully what you're seeing.
There's a
>
> That too.

    But you spotted something else?


>
>
> > lot to do with him, (he's a Bull Elephant), i.e, the tusks need to
be
> > dirtied, battered and bruised, and the skin texture needs to be
> > improved also.
> >
>
> Your going to have some fun with that.

   Tell me about it! <sweat, sweat, sweat...!!>

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into a manly chest by... yes, you guessed it... *Poving*! No need for
those old, rusty, dusty barbells, just build your muscles up by typing
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each... each.. night."

   To be continued...  Later... maybe... <pant... cough..>

     ~Steve~   ;)


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Meet 'Nelly'...
Date: 10 May 2004 19:33:23
Message: <40a01143$1@news.povray.org>
Joking apart Jim, what would you suggest for a background to this?

   ~Steve~


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: Meet 'Nelly'...
Date: 11 May 2004 15:47:17
Message: <40a12dc5$1@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:409d257e@news.povray.org...
| Something I've been working on in the last couple of days.
|

Very nice. For a background, you could add in flowers, bright colors,
and some Hindi writing. Sort of a Ganesh suggestion.

 -Shay


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Meet 'Nelly'...
Date: 12 May 2004 17:43:26
Message: <40a29a7e$1@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:
> Joking apart Jim, what would you suggest for a background to this?

It depends on what you want the picture to be about I guess.  But with 
that bit of preaching out of the way I would say there is nothing 
essentially wrong with what you already have.  It would be fairly easy 
to add a few elements to suggest an open savannah setting.  A few trees 
on the horizon, some grass.  And that could be elaborated and varied 
indefinitely as to time of day and degree of texture in foreground 
elements to get a nice wildlife scene.

The one thing that doesn't read well for me is the lighting and the way 
the shadows fall.  The shadow the head casts on the ground looks like it 
could be the shadow of the left forefoot which then makes that foot look 
like it is floating in space.  In addition the shadow on the right side 
of the elephant abscures a lot of detail which frustrates the viewer.


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Meet 'Nelly'...
Date: 13 May 2004 18:39:42
Message: <40a3f92e$1@news.povray.org>
"Shay" <rrr.rrr.r> wrote in message news:40a12dc5$1@news.povray.org...
>
> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message
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> | Something I've been working on in the last couple of days.
> |
>
> Very nice. For a background, you could add in flowers, bright
colors,
> and some Hindi writing. Sort of a Ganesh suggestion.

   Nice suggestion, but it's an African Elephant. I wouldn't need
Hindi writing. The bright colours and flowers that you suggest? I'll
think about using them, thanks!

   ~Steve~


>
>  -Shay
>
>


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Meet 'Nelly'...
Date: 13 May 2004 19:04:23
Message: <40a3fef7@news.povray.org>
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message
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> St. wrote:
> > Joking apart Jim, what would you suggest for a background to this?
>
> It depends on what you want the picture to be about I guess.

  What would you say that this picture is *about*?


But with
> that bit of preaching out of the way I would say there is nothing
> essentially wrong with what you already have.

Thank you. I'm building on it. I finished the elephant today, and
*I'm* happy with him. :)


It would be fairly easy
> to add a few elements to suggest an open savannah setting.  A few
trees
> on the horizon, some grass.  And that could be elaborated and varied
> indefinitely as to time of day and degree of texture in foreground
> elements to get a nice wildlife scene.


   Ah well Jim, you're not far away from knowing me, that's for sure!
:)

   I thought as much, and I hope you're not disappointed with the
final.


>
> The one thing that doesn't read well for me is the lighting and the
way
> the shadows fall.  The shadow the head casts on the ground looks
like it
> could be the shadow of the left forefoot which then makes that foot
look
> like it is floating in space.  In addition the shadow on the right
side
> of the elephant abscures a lot of detail which frustrates the
viewer.

    Agreed, and you were right. I changed the original scene and
lighting two days ago now - it looks fine.

     ~Steve~


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