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From: Brendan Hurley
Subject: How I Spent the Winter Part 3
Date: 27 Apr 2004 11:28:06
Message: <408e7c06@news.povray.org>
Last 3 ....
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Michael Brendan Hurley
http://www.geocities.com/mbrendanh/indxx02.html
mbh### [at] sabernet


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From: LightBeam
Subject: Re: How I Spent the Winter Part 3
Date: 27 Apr 2004 13:08:54
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That's a long and good job ! Many many parts... neat ! :-)


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From: Brendan Hurley
Subject: Re: How I Spent the Winter Part 3
Date: 27 Apr 2004 22:23:20
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Hi, LightBeam,

> That's a long and good job ! Many many parts... neat ! :-)

Thank you! I've had this concept of an "exploded diagram" render of the
house for many years. Such diagrams are common in tech manuals, blueprints,
handbooks, etc. so it seemed natural to try to reproduce one. After all,
this house, or any POV image, is usually a union {} of objects so it was
only a couple of hours work to "expand" this union before it got too
complicated.

Rendering these images at q+6, aa 0.5, in plain colors rather than realistic
textures makes this model seem more real. Note that my concept of this
project is to render an image of an architect's model sitting on a table,
not of a "real" building.

Blessings, Brendan

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Michael Brendan Hurley
http://www.geocities.com/mbrendanh/indxx02.html
mbh### [at] sabernet


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From: gregjohn
Subject: Re: How I Spent the Winter Part 3
Date: 28 Apr 2004 13:55:00
Message: <web.408fefe89ea9957240d56c170@news.povray.org>
That is quite a cool project.  I've sometimes started architectural projects
where I started with a nice outer shell, only to get lost as I went further
"inside".


Aside from the exploded view, what are you going to "do" with the house--
it's almost like making a doll house and you'll immediately want to go get
some dolls to put in it.




"Brendan Hurley" <mbh### [at] sabernet> wrote:
> Last 3 ....
> --
> Michael Brendan Hurley
> http://www.geocities.com/mbrendanh/indxx02.html
> mbh### [at] sabernet


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From: Brendan Hurley
Subject: Re: How I Spent the Winter Part 3
Date: 28 Apr 2004 22:43:15
Message: <40906bc3@news.povray.org>
Hi, gregjohn,

> That is quite a cool project.  I've sometimes started architectural
projects
> where I started with a nice outer shell, only to get lost as I went
further
> "inside". [snip]
> ... what are you going to "do" with the house--

This summer I will work on furniture and interior decorating: gotta put all
those hours of watching the Home & Garden channel with my wife to good use!
( All contributions of furniture, fixtures, sculptures, lamps, etc --in the
Modernist style-- will be greatly appreciated, and credited in the source
code)
And then there will be the landscaping and some terrain to locate the
house...

Keep watch for updates...and scene files will be posted on the scene board
soon.

Render Long and Prosper!
Brendan.


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: How I Spent the Winter Part 3
Date: 29 Apr 2004 11:18:55
Message: <40911cdf@news.povray.org>
"Brendan Hurley" <mbh### [at] sabernet> wrote in message
news:408e7c06@news.povray.org...

Does this series of pictures represent the order in which you built this
project? The design is very attractive, but to be honest, the
implausible curved windows bother me.

I'm not sure if you wanted suggestions, but I do have a couple.

The horizontal details above and below the windows are IMO too bold.
They give the illusion that they are structural pieces and contribute to
a cottage look. I would diminish these considerably and then recess the
windows in relation to the concrete walls rather than in relation to
these details.

I would also suggest breaking up the horizontal lines by making raising
the ceiling of the bottom floor of the patio extension. A door from the
bottom floor of this extension leading to a raised deck with perhaps an
outside staircase leading to the top might work as well. Might also be
too much.??

Basically, I think that the entire building will have a more modern (if
indeed this is what you want) design if you start with a basic form and
then create your building by taking away (never adding) until the
building is nearly complete. *Then*, go back and add in only very small
and light (as in physically not heavy) details.

 -Shay


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From: Brendan Hurley
Subject: Re: How I Spent the Winter Part 3
Date: 30 Apr 2004 23:29:12
Message: <40931988@news.povray.org>
Hi, Shay,
Good to hear from you; your suggestions ar every welcome. Just because I
have a good design idea doesn't mean it is a "good" idea!

> Does this series of pictures represent the order in which you built this
> project? The design is very attractive, but to be honest, the
> implausible curved windows bother me.
>
> I'm not sure if you wanted suggestions, but I do have a couple.
>

Suggestions very OK  that's the idea of this news group.

Actually, the wrap-around window sills were the last detail to be added.
They took about 30+ hours of coding/tesing to get each segement to align all
the way around. The sills above/below the curved windows came first. I liked
the look of them and decieded to extend them all around. That involved
rescaling and re-aligning all the window opennings and frames; thus the many
hours of coding/testing.

> The horizontal details above and below the windows are IMO too bold.
> They give the illusion that they are structural pieces and contribute to
> a cottage look. I would diminish these considerably and then recess the
> windows in relation to the concrete walls rather than in relation to
> these details.

They maybe too bold; I put the task of reducing their demensions on my list
right after I finished putting them in place! The "cottage look" was
accidental, and somewhat out of place on a Modernist home. I plan to work on
this. The real world building that inspired this image has horizontal
details but they are the same color as the rest of the building. The
original is somewhere in the USA Southwest; it was built in the 1930's or
early 40's to resemble an Art Deco style steamship. It is sited on a rocky
ridge overlooking a desert vally. When new owners bought it in the 80's they
remodeled/upgraded it. Then it burned down. Then they rebuilt it. I saw it
in Architechural Digest and fell in love with it. My rendered version does
not do it justice.

> I would also suggest breaking up the horizontal lines by making raising
> the ceiling of the bottom floor of the patio extension. A door from the
> bottom floor of this extension leading to a raised deck with perhaps an
> outside staircase leading to the top might work as well. Might also be
> too much.??

Yes, the west balcony does look odd. Revisons needed. This building is just
version 1; more will appear as I get time to work. The railings on the
balcony are too thick. The windows seem too small. The door frames are
recycled code from the previous model of this house. There is no chimney or
rear door.  Etc., etc., etc. ...

> Basically, I think that the entire building will have a more modern (if
> indeed this is what you want) design if you start with a basic form and
> then create your building by taking away (never adding) until the
> building is nearly complete. *Then*, go back and add in only very small
> and light (as in physically not heavy) details.

I did start this Modernist project four years ago. Visit my web site to see
the evolution of this house (and it's alterations thru POV ver 1, ver 3, ver
3.01g, and now 3.5.

Thanks for the comments,
Blessings, Brendan

-- 
Michael Brendan Hurley
http://www.geocities.com/mbrendanh/indxx01.html
mbh### [at] sabernet


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