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From: Dave Matthews
Subject: Dairy Barn(Take 2) (88k and 118k)
Date: 26 Mar 2004 11:29:43
Message: <40645a77@news.povray.org>
Here's a more complete version of the frame.  The second picture shows 
the wind brace on the end, as Remy Closset mentioned.  There are still a 
few more changes to be made, such as, there really should be a smaller 
door on the front left, since the back is north, and the barn is 
supposed to be placed to the northeast of the house, given the 
prevailing westerly winds in the midwest USA.

Thanks for all the advice on woodgrain, shingles, etc.  More comments 
greatly appreciated.

Dave Matthews


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From: Dave Matthews
Subject: Re: Dairy Barn(Take 2) (88k and 118k)
Date: 26 Mar 2004 11:39:04
Message: <40645ca8$1@news.povray.org>
(Talking to myself)

As I look at it, I'm sure that there should be trusses nearer to the 
ends -- it looks far too flimsy this way, although the plans didn't show 
this, and the details of tying in the faces clearly show that there are 
not supposed to be trusses at the very ends.

Oh, well.  It's easier to fix with POVRay than it would be in the other 
real life.

Dave Matthews


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: Dairy Barn(Take 2) (88k and 118k)
Date: 26 Mar 2004 14:01:53
Message: <40647e21$1@news.povray.org>
I love what you're doing.  I will be very interested to see how this
progresses.

I really like the fact that you're taking the time to make this "real".
Most of us would simply do the outside of the barn.  You're actually
building it piece by piece.  When you're done, you'll have a model that will
be perfect inside and out.  That's very commendable, imho.

Keep up the good work!

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com


"Dave Matthews" <dma### [at] nospamnet> wrote in message
news:40645a77@news.povray.org...
> Here's a more complete version of the frame.  The second picture shows
> the wind brace on the end, as Remy Closset mentioned.  There are still a
> few more changes to be made, such as, there really should be a smaller
> door on the front left, since the back is north, and the barn is
> supposed to be placed to the northeast of the house, given the
> prevailing westerly winds in the midwest USA.
>
> Thanks for all the advice on woodgrain, shingles, etc.  More comments
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Dave Matthews
>


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From: Dan P
Subject: Re: Dairy Barn(Take 2) (88k and 118k)
Date: 27 Mar 2004 13:20:18
Message: <4065c5e2$1@news.povray.org>
"Dave Matthews" <dma### [at] nospamnet> wrote in message
news:40645a77@news.povray.org...
> Here's a more complete version of the frame.  The second picture shows
> the wind brace on the end, as Remy Closset mentioned.  There are still a
> few more changes to be made, such as, there really should be a smaller
> door on the front left, since the back is north, and the barn is
> supposed to be placed to the northeast of the house, given the
> prevailing westerly winds in the midwest USA.
>
> Thanks for all the advice on woodgrain, shingles, etc.  More comments
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Dave Matthews


The cows are clapping (have you ever seen cows clap? It's quite a sight!).
Beeeoooooooootiful.
You have a lot of patience to put together something this detailed.

-- 
- Respectfully,
Dan
http://<broken link>


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From: Dave Matthews
Subject: Re: Dairy Barn(Take 2) (88k and 118k)
Date: 29 Mar 2004 08:56:55
Message: <40682b27$1@news.povray.org>
Jeremy M. Praay wrote:

> I love what you're doing.  I will be very interested to see how this
> progresses.
> 
> I really like the fact that you're taking the time to make this "real".
> Most of us would simply do the outside of the barn.  You're actually
> building it piece by piece.  When you're done, you'll have a model that will
> be perfect inside and out.  That's very commendable, imho.
> 
> Keep up the good work!
> 

Thanks!  I made some improvements over the weekend, but not enough to 
warrant another post.  After looking at a neighbor's (smaller but 
similarly supported) barn, I decided that the trusses should be 12 feet 
apart, rather than 16, and start closer to the barn face, so now there 
are 7 trusses instead of 4, making it look much more substantial.  Also 
I noticed that the roof frame should extend 2 feet past the barn (for an 
overhang), and that the center "point" (I can't remember its name) 
should be only as wide as the haymow doors, and extend further out, to 
protect the pulley assembly (again I forget the name) used to get the 
hay into and out of the loft.

Anyway, I thought about trying to make just the outside, but my 
observational skills are so poor, that usually someone comes by and says 
"that barn (or whatever) couldn't even stand up the way you made it."

The nice thing about a barn is that, even when (if) it's completed, 
you'll still be able to see all of the construction details (from the 
inside).  It's also interesting to see how far you can get with just one 
primitive ("box.")  I'm not sure if it's practical to go any further 
with just boxes, since next come the lathes, and then the siding and 
shingles, and that's a lot of boxes.  I'm also toying with whether or 
not to include the internal ventillation, although the engineering 
aspects of that are really fascinating (how do you most efficiently 
remove methane from the barn and put it out into the atmosphere, where 
it belongs?)

Thanks for the interest and comments.

Dave Matthews


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From: Dave Matthews
Subject: Re: Dairy Barn(Take 2) (88k and 118k)
Date: 29 Mar 2004 08:57:38
Message: <40682b52@news.povray.org>
Dan P wrote:


> 
> The cows are clapping (have you ever seen cows clap? It's quite a sight!).
> Beeeoooooooootiful.
> You have a lot of patience to put together something this detailed.
> 

LOL

Thanks!

Dave Matthews


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From: Felbrigg
Subject: Re: Dairy Barn(Take 2) (88k and 118k)
Date: 29 Mar 2004 09:34:54
Message: <4068340e$1@news.povray.org>
Heres a bit of shingles code for you, new and improoved!

#include "colors.inc"
#include "textures.inc"
#include "functions.inc"
#include "shapes.inc"
#include "woods.inc"

camera  { location <10,0,-40> look_at <10,0,0> }

background { Blue }

light_source { <900, 560, -500> color White }
light_source { <-900, -560, -500> color White }
light_source { <900, 560, 500> color White }
light_source { <-900, -560, 500> color White }

#declare rStream = seed(0);

#macro
RowOfShingles(heightOfShingle,widthOfShingle,depthOfShingle,lengthOfRow,theT
exture)

        #declare currentLength = 0;
        #declare gapBetweenShingles = 0.1;

        union   {
                #while(currentLength < lengthOfRow)
                        #declare thisShingleWidth = widthOfShingle +
(rand(rStream)*(widthOfShingle/2));
                        box     {
                                <currentLength,0,0>,

<currentLength+thisShingleWidth,heightOfShingle
+rand(rStream),depthOfShingle>
                                texture {
                                        theTexture
                                        rotate
<rand(rStream)*360,rand(rStream)*360,rand(rStream)*360>

                                        }
                                }
                        #declare currentLength = currentLength +
thisShingleWidth + gapBetweenShingles;

                #end
                }
#end


#macro
Rows(heightOfShingle,widthOfShingle,depthOfShingle,lengthOfRow,theTexture,Ro
wCount)
        #declare myCount = 0;
        union   {
        #while(myCount <= RowCount )
                object  {
                        RowOfShingles(3,2,0.5,40,theTexture)
                        translate
<0,(heightOfShingle/2)*myCount,(depthOfShingle*myCount)*-1>
                        }
                #declare myCount = myCount + 1;
        #end
                }

#end

#declare myShingles = texture { pigment { P_WoodGrain1A color_map {
M_Wood9A } scale 4} };

object  {
        Rows(3,2,0.5,60,myShingles,12)
        rotate <200,0,0>
        translate <-10,20,0>
        }


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From: Dave Matthews
Subject: Re: Dairy Barn(Take 2) (88k and 118k)
Date: 29 Mar 2004 09:38:49
Message: <406834f9$1@news.povray.org>
Thanks!  That's very nice, very useable, and very understandable!

Dave Matthews


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From: stephen parkinson
Subject: Re: Dairy Barn(Take 2) (88k and 118k)
Date: 29 Mar 2004 16:50:00
Message: <40689a08@news.povray.org>
Dave Matthews wrote:
> Thanks!  That's very nice, very useable, and very understandable!
> 
> Dave Matthews
> 

i must be rendering it incorrectly, it looked like chipboard

currently playing with a tutorial series wood_1..19.pov  (its on other 
box at moment, that i found semms to me, something is wrong with 
rand(R)*360 on all of x,y,z for the rotate
istr something in docs about 5-10 degrees about x or z axes's, the 
direction i think is really z (grain direction)
so i'm playing with different fading on some of the straighter grained 
wood textures.

stephen


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From: Dave Matthews
Subject: Re: Dairy Barn(Take 2) (88k and 118k)
Date: 29 Mar 2004 17:59:12
Message: <4068aa40$1@news.povray.org>
stephen parkinson wrote:
> Dave Matthews wrote:
> 
>> Thanks!  That's very nice, very useable, and very understandable!
>>
>> Dave Matthews
>>
> 
> i must be rendering it incorrectly, it looked like chipboard....
> 

Oops, I hadn't tried it yet, just read it, and it looked good.  Now I 
better try it and try to figure it out.

Dave Matthews


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